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From: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/6] mm/migrate_pages: split unmap_and_move() to _unmap() and _move()
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 13:56:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHbLzkqw3G5oN8YsPYPzRjYa3WMfSoaOL9Pp54GhOKsGGcXWeg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ill937qe.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 6:52 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote:
>
> Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com> writes:
>
> > Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> >> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 2:37 AM Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> writes:
> >>>
> >>> > This is a preparation patch to batch the page unmapping and moving
> >>> > for the normal pages and THP.
> >>> >
> >>> > In this patch, unmap_and_move() is split to migrate_page_unmap() and
> >>> > migrate_page_move().  So, we can batch _unmap() and _move() in
> >>> > different loops later.  To pass some information between unmap and
> >>> > move, the original unused newpage->mapping and newpage->private are
> >>> > used.
> >>>
> >>> This looks like it could cause a deadlock between two threads migrating
> >>> the same pages if force == true && mode != MIGRATE_ASYNC as
> >>> migrate_page_unmap() will call lock_page() while holding the lock on
> >>> other pages in the list. Therefore the two threads could deadlock if the
> >>> pages are in a different order.
> >>
> >> It seems unlikely to me since the page has to be isolated from lru
> >> before migration. The isolating from lru is atomic, so the two threads
> >> unlikely see the same pages on both lists.
> >
> > Oh thanks! That is a good point and I agree since lru isolation is
> > atomic the two threads won't see the same pages. migrate_vma_setup()
> > does LRU isolation after locking the page which is why the potential
> > exists there. We could potentially switch that around but given
> > ZONE_DEVICE pages aren't on an lru it wouldn't help much.
> >
> >> But there might be other cases which may incur deadlock, for example,
> >> filesystem writeback IIUC. Some filesystems may lock a bunch of pages
> >> then write them back in a batch. The same pages may be on the
> >> migration list and they are also dirty and seen by writeback. I'm not
> >> sure whether I miss something that could prevent such a deadlock from
> >> happening.
> >
> > I'm not overly familiar with that area but I would assume any filesystem
> > code doing this would already have to deal with deadlock potential.
>
> Thank you very much for pointing this out.  I think the deadlock is a
> real issue.  Anyway, we shouldn't forbid other places in kernel to lock
> 2 pages at the same time.
>
> The simplest solution is to batch page migration only if mode ==
> MIGRATE_ASYNC.  Then we may consider to fall back to non-batch mode if
> mode != MIGRATE_ASYNC and trylock page fails.

Seems like so...

>
> Best Regards,
> Huang, Ying
>
> [snip]

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-09-27 20:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-21  6:06 [RFC 0/6] migrate_pages(): batch TLB flushing Huang Ying
2022-09-21  6:06 ` [RFC 1/6] mm/migrate_pages: separate huge page and normal pages migration Huang Ying
2022-09-21 15:55   ` Zi Yan
2022-09-22  1:14     ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-22  6:03   ` Baolin Wang
2022-09-22  6:22     ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-21  6:06 ` [RFC 2/6] mm/migrate_pages: split unmap_and_move() to _unmap() and _move() Huang Ying
2022-09-21 16:08   ` Zi Yan
2022-09-22  1:15     ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-22  6:36   ` Baolin Wang
2022-09-26  9:28   ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-26 18:06     ` Yang Shi
2022-09-27  0:02       ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-27  1:51         ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-27 20:34           ` John Hubbard
2022-09-27 20:57             ` Yang Shi
2022-09-28  0:59               ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-28  1:41                 ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-28  1:44                   ` John Hubbard
2022-09-28  1:49                     ` Yang Shi
2022-09-28  1:56                       ` John Hubbard
2022-09-28  2:14                         ` Yang Shi
2022-09-28  2:57                           ` John Hubbard
2022-09-28  3:25                             ` Yang Shi
2022-09-28  3:39                               ` Yang Shi
2022-09-27 20:56           ` Yang Shi [this message]
2022-09-27 20:54         ` Yang Shi
2022-09-21  6:06 ` [RFC 3/6] mm/migrate_pages: restrict number of pages to migrate in batch Huang Ying
2022-09-21 16:10   ` Zi Yan
2022-09-21 16:15     ` Zi Yan
2022-09-22  1:15     ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-21  6:06 ` [RFC 4/6] mm/migrate_pages: batch _unmap and _move Huang Ying
2022-09-21  6:06 ` [RFC 5/6] mm/migrate_pages: share more code between " Huang Ying
2022-09-21  6:06 ` [RFC 6/6] mm/migrate_pages: batch flushing TLB Huang Ying
2022-09-21 15:47 ` [RFC 0/6] migrate_pages(): batch TLB flushing Zi Yan
2022-09-22  1:45   ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-22  3:47   ` haoxin
2022-09-22  4:36     ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-22 12:50 ` Bharata B Rao
2022-09-23  7:52   ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-27 10:46     ` Bharata B Rao
2022-09-28  1:46       ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-26  9:11 ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-27 11:21 ` haoxin
2022-09-28  2:01   ` Huang, Ying
2022-09-28  3:33     ` haoxin
2022-09-28  4:53       ` Huang, Ying
2022-11-01 14:49   ` Hesham Almatary
2022-11-02  3:14     ` Huang, Ying
2022-11-02 14:13       ` Hesham Almatary

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