From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
Changbin Du <changbin.du@gmail.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2 v2] kprobe: Do not use uaccess functions to access kernel memory that can fault
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 10:28:49 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=whX6LLVn_q2DC0K37iQgZ4S0LX6mR46+O2TNufJuR-K6Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AD9148E4-00CC-4711-82D3-957D28497057@amacapital.net>
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 9:48 AM Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 22, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > Then we should still probably fix up "__probe_kernel_read()" to not
> > allow user accesses. The easiest way to do that is actually likely to
> > use the "unsafe_get_user()" functions *without* doing a
> > uaccess_begin(), which will mean that modern CPU's will simply fault
> > on a kernel access to user space.
> >
> > The nice thing about that is that usually developers will have access
> > to exactly those modern boxes, so the people who notice that it
> > doesn't work are the right people.
>
> We use probe_kernel_read() from oops code. I’d rather it return -EFAULT than oops harder and kill the first oops.
It would still do that.
Using the unsafe_get_user() macros doesn't remove the exception
handling, and we wouldn't remove the whole "pagefault_disable()"
either. So it would work exactly the same way it does now, except on a
modern CPU it would return -EFAULT for a user space access due to AC
not being set.
So no "oops harder", only "safer accesses".
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-22 18:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-15 17:47 [PATCH 0/2 v2] [GIT PULL (take two)] tracing: Two more fixes Steven Rostedt
2019-02-15 17:47 ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] kprobe: Do not use uaccess functions to access kernel memory that can fault Steven Rostedt
2019-02-15 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-15 22:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-15 23:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-16 0:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-16 1:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-16 2:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-16 2:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-16 2:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-18 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-18 18:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-19 16:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-19 18:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-19 19:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-20 8:10 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-20 13:57 ` Jann Horn
2019-02-20 14:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-20 15:08 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-20 14:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-20 16:04 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-20 16:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-21 7:37 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-22 8:27 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-22 8:35 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-22 17:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-22 17:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-22 18:28 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2019-02-22 19:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-22 19:27 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-22 19:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-22 19:34 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-22 19:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-22 19:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-22 21:43 ` Jann Horn
2019-02-22 22:08 ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-22 22:17 ` Jann Horn
2019-02-22 22:21 ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-22 22:39 ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-22 23:02 ` Jann Horn
2019-02-22 23:22 ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-22 23:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-23 0:03 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-23 0:15 ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-24 19:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-25 13:36 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-22 21:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-22 21:38 ` David Miller
2019-02-22 21:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-22 22:51 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-22 23:11 ` Jann Horn
2019-02-22 23:16 ` David Miller
2019-02-22 23:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-22 23:56 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-23 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-23 2:28 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-23 2:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-23 3:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-23 4:51 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-26 3:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-02-26 15:24 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-02-28 12:29 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-28 15:18 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-02-23 3:47 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-24 0:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-24 4:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-24 15:17 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-24 17:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-25 2:40 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-25 4:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-25 8:09 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-25 16:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-26 1:35 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-25 8:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25 14:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25 16:48 ` Kees Cook
2019-02-25 16:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-25 17:07 ` Kees Cook
2019-02-21 7:52 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-21 14:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-21 15:58 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-21 16:16 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-21 16:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-23 14:48 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-15 17:47 ` [PATCH 2/2 v2] tracing: Fix number of entries in trace header Steven Rostedt
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