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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	rust-for-linux <rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	Geoffrey Thomas <geofft@ldpreload.com>,
	Finn Behrens <me@kloenk.de>,
	Adam Bratschi-Kaye <ark.email@gmail.com>,
	Wedson Almeida Filho <wedsonaf@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/17] kallsyms: increase maximum kernel symbol length to 512
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 13:21:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=whdi_biEOrzrYn7OC+wq+ckoaa5dFAATdM=n9P7Dp0YOA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mtqo1wv6.fsf@disp2133>

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:09 PM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>
> Are you thinking the hashed kernel symbols need to have their types
> included in the hash?

I think the hash should be the whole mangled name. So yes, for Rust
symbols they'd have the the type information.

>  Or is this just a hash to make the names a managable size?

No, if that was the only point of it, the "just use two bytes for
length" would be simpler.

But I don't think we want to do run-time de-mangling of names in the
kernel when doing stack traces, which implies that the kallsym
information in the kernel should be the de-mangled names.

That makes the names nice and readable, and also makes this "maximum
symbol length" thing a non-issue.

BUT.

It also means that you can't use those names for linking purposes, so
you'd then need to have a "full version" for that. But as Willy
pointed out elsewhere, you might as well just use a constant-sized
hash for that, rather than have both a manged and a de-mangled name.

                   Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-14 20:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-04 20:27 [PATCH 00/17] Rust support ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 01/17] kallsyms: support big kernel symbols (2-byte lengths) ojeda
2021-07-04 20:52   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-07-04 21:15     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 21:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-07-04 21:04   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-07-04 21:17     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 21:33       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-07-04 21:49         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-07-04 22:07           ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 22:20         ` Gary Guo
2021-07-04 22:42           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-07-04 23:14             ` Gary Guo
2021-07-13 18:02             ` Kent Overstreet
2021-07-04 21:20     ` Gary Guo
2021-07-05  4:35       ` Willy Tarreau
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 02/17] kallsyms: increase maximum kernel symbol length to 512 ojeda
2021-07-14 18:20   ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-07-14 19:04     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-07-14 20:09       ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-14 20:21         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2021-07-14 20:48           ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-14 22:40             ` Linus Torvalds
2021-07-14 20:19     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 03/17] Makefile: generate `CLANG_FLAGS` even in GCC builds ojeda
2021-07-14 18:13   ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-07-14 18:16     ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-07-14 20:31     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 04/17] vsprintf: add new `%pA` format specifier ojeda
2021-07-07 20:31   ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-07-07 22:33     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 05/17] rust: add C helpers ojeda
2021-07-07 10:19   ` Marco Elver
2021-07-09 10:31     ` Marco Elver
2021-07-09 14:32     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 06/17] rust: add `compiler_builtins` crate ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 07/17] rust: add `alloc` crate ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 08/17] rust: add `build_error` crate ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 09/17] rust: add `macros` crate ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 10/17] rust: add `kernel` crate ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 11/17] rust: export generated symbols ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 12/17] Kbuild: add Rust support ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 13/17] docs: add Rust documentation ojeda
2021-07-05  5:02   ` Willy Tarreau
2021-07-06  0:06     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-06  2:09       ` Willy Tarreau
2021-07-14 18:37   ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-07-14 19:55     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 14/17] samples: add Rust examples ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 15/17] scripts: add `generate_rust_analyzer.py` ojeda
2021-07-05  5:05   ` Willy Tarreau
2021-07-05 23:41     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 16/17] MAINTAINERS: Rust ojeda
2021-07-06  0:26   ` Pedro Tammela
2021-07-06 22:14     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [RFC PATCH 17/17] Android: Binder IPC in Rust (WIP) ojeda
2021-07-04 23:11 ` [PATCH 00/17] Rust support Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-07  6:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-07 12:33   ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-07 12:50     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-07 14:07       ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2021-07-07 14:12         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-07 15:02         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-07 20:56           ` Finn Behrens
2021-07-08  0:58             ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-07-08  6:39               ` [PATCH 00/17] Rust support, NVMe Geert Stappers
2021-07-08  8:29                 ` Finn Behrens
2021-07-22 22:55               ` [PATCH 00/17] Rust support Wedson Almeida Filho
2021-07-23  1:17                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-07-23 11:33                   ` [PATCH 00/17] Rust support, GPIO driver Geert Stappers
2021-07-23 15:08                 ` [PATCH 00/17] Rust support Keith Busch
2021-07-07 10:51 ` Marco Elver
2021-07-07 11:28   ` Miguel Ojeda

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