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[209.85.208.172]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i128sm626929lji.49.2019.09.27.12.41.20 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 27 Sep 2019 12:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-f172.google.com with SMTP id y23so3589701lje.9 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 12:41:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a2e:2c02:: with SMTP id s2mr4224670ljs.156.1569613280372; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 12:41:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <64d13484950cab570e5f2691d7cdeca292882d95.camel@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <64d13484950cab570e5f2691d7cdeca292882d95.camel@redhat.com> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 12:41:04 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Thermal management updates for v5.4-rc1 To: Doug Ledford Cc: Zhang Rui , LKML , Linux PM list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 12:29 PM Doug Ledford wrote: > > Because there are literally thousands of developers working on kernel > bits here and there, and you're swatting this particular fly one > developer at a time. Well, at least these days it's also very clearly spelled out in the Documentation directory. And the "don't rebase" does get posted on the mailing lists each time, and I've mentioned it over the years in my release notes too. Besides, I actually only work with about a hundred top-level maintainers, not thousands. Yes, we have thousands of developers, but doing the stats over the 5.0 releases, there have been "only" 131 people sending me pull requests. Sure, more than a couple, but at the same time it's not like this is a "every developer" kind of thing, this is literally subsystem maintainers. We've got a fair number of them, but it's definitely not about thousands. I feel like I've sent that email out way more than a hundred times over the last 15+ years. .. and I don't think having git warn is right, since rebasing is perfectly fine as you are doing development. It's really just that maintainers shouldn't do it for bad reasons and at bad times. And "there was a conflict" and "yesterday" is really one of the absolute worst reasons/times around. Linus