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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Bernd Edlinger <bernd.edlinger@hotmail.de>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Christopher Yeoh <cyeoh@au1.ibm.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
	Sargun Dhillon <sargun@sargun.me>,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] exec: Transform exec_update_mutex into a rw_semaphore
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 09:21:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wi6inOF5yvQRwUFbqMt0zFJ8S8GhqE2M0judU7RiGru8Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM6PR03MB5170412C2B0318C40CED55E5E4F10@AM6PR03MB5170.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com>

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 8:08 AM Bernd Edlinger <bernd.edlinger@hotmail.de> wrote:
>
> >
> > -static void kcmp_unlock(struct mutex *m1, struct mutex *m2)
> > +static void kcmp_unlock(struct rw_semaphore *l1, struct rw_semaphore *l2)
> >  {
> > -     if (likely(m2 != m1))
> > -             mutex_unlock(m2);
> > -     mutex_unlock(m1);
> > +     if (likely(l2 != l1))
>
> is this still necessary ?
>
> > +             up_read(l2);
> > +     up_read(l1);
> >  }
> >
> > -static int kcmp_lock(struct mutex *m1, struct mutex *m2)
> > +static int kcmp_lock(struct rw_semaphore *l1, struct rw_semaphore *l2)
> >  {
> >       int err;
> >
> > -     if (m2 > m1)
> > -             swap(m1, m2);
> > +     if (l2 > l1)
> > +             swap(l1, l2);
>
> and this is probably also no longer necessary?

These are still necessary, because even a recursive read lock can
still block on a writer trying to come in between the two read locks
due to fairness guarantees.

So taking the same read lock twice is still a source of possible deadlocks.

For the same reason, read locks still have ABBA deadlock and need to
be taken in order.

So switching from a mutex to a rwlock doesn't really change the
locking rules in this respect.

In fact, I'm not convinced this change even fixes the deadlock that
syzbot reported, for the same reason: it just requires a write lock in
between two read locks to deadlock.

               Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-04 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-03 20:09 [PATCH 0/3] exec: Transform exec_update_mutex into a rw_semaphore Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-03 20:10 ` [PATCH 1/3] rwsem: Implement down_read_killable_nested Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-04  1:58   ` Waiman Long
2020-12-09 18:38   ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-03 20:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] rwsem: Implement down_read_interruptible Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-04  1:59   ` Waiman Long
2020-12-07  9:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-07 15:33       ` Waiman Long
2020-12-07 16:58         ` David Laight
2020-12-07 19:02           ` Waiman Long
2020-12-08  9:12             ` David Laight
2020-12-08 12:32               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-08 13:13                 ` David Laight
2020-12-08 15:34               ` Waiman Long
2020-12-08 16:23                 ` David Laight
2020-12-07 15:56       ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-08 14:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-08 18:27           ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-09 18:36             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-10 19:33               ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-11  8:16                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-09 18:38       ` [tip: locking/core] locking/rwsem: Introduce rwsem_write_trylock() tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-09 18:38       ` [tip: locking/core] locking/rwsem: Fold __down_{read,write}*() tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-09 18:38       ` [tip: locking/core] locking/rwsem: Better collate rwsem_read_trylock() tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-09 18:38   ` [tip: locking/core] rwsem: Implement down_read_interruptible tip-bot2 for Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-03 20:12 ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Transform exec_update_mutex into a rw_semaphore Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-04 16:08   ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-12-04 17:21     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2020-12-04 19:34       ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-04 20:10         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-04 20:30           ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-12-04 20:48             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-04 21:48               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2020-12-05 18:05                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-07  9:15                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-07  9:09               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-07 18:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-08  8:34                   ` [PATCH] perf: Break deadlock involving exec_update_mutex Peter Zijlstra
2020-12-08 18:37                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-12-10 18:38                     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2020-12-10 19:40                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-05 17:43           ` [PATCH 3/3] exec: Transform exec_update_mutex into a rw_semaphore Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-04 17:39     ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-12-03 22:42 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Linus Torvalds
2020-12-04  1:56   ` Waiman Long
2020-12-04  4:54   ` Davidlohr Bueso

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