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[209.85.167.176]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e4-20020a05683013c400b00655dda40f54sm3145745otq.78.2022.10.04.11.04.05 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Oct 2022 11:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi1-f176.google.com with SMTP id s192so987216oie.3 for ; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 11:04:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aca:b957:0:b0:351:4ecf:477d with SMTP id j84-20020acab957000000b003514ecf477dmr469103oif.126.1664906645054; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 11:04:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20221004175354.bfvg3vhfqch35ib5@meerkat.local> In-Reply-To: <20221004175354.bfvg3vhfqch35ib5@meerkat.local> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 11:03:48 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Planned changes for bugzilla.kernel.org to reduce the "Bugzilla blues" To: Konstantin Ryabitsev Cc: Thorsten Leemhuis , "Artem S. Tashkinov" , ksummit , workflows@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Greg KH , "regressions@lists.linux.dev" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 10:53 AM Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > > 2. Create and maintain a mapping from MAINTAINER subsystem entries to > Product/Component categories in Bugzilla (the scheme to be established). It's probably worth asking the 0day people what they do. Maybe they do it all manually and have no real helping infrastructure, but I see emails from them that often (but certainly not always) seem to get the right people involved. And while the MAINTAINER file is useful for a fiel mapping, I'm not convinced it's all that useful for the "product/component category" mapping, because I doubt people will actually fill that in well (and reliably) enough. With actual bisection data, it's fairly easy (get the emails from the commit that got bisected). But things like "use the backtrace in the oops to figure out who to add to participants" is likely a bit more of a "use clever heuristics" kind of thing. Anyway, I do think that some kind of automation would be really good, at least for reports that have bisection information or backtraces in them. Without automation, people _will_ be overwhelmed on the first level response to bug reports (ie the "try to figure out who to bring in" front). But if the automation is too stupid, people will start ignoring the report emails just on the assumption that it got thihngs wrong. Of course, if the automation is really solid enough, I think it should work on lore.kernel.org, not on just a bugzilla thing. Linus