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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>
Cc: Michal Luczaj <mhal@rbox.co>,
	x86@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, shuah@kernel.org,
	luto@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] x86: UMIP emulation leaking kernel addresses
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2023 12:08:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wiB2FSWb0HxgzHGJKaDRCaJ6tGSc0OVvodAiZ_QU=05NQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMzpN2jcEGBcEKbNjwMJ+VCMc-_N1GcpVkGgAhy=XzomJP-Ogw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 at 09:16, Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A different way to plug this is to harden ptrace (and sigreturn) to
> verify that the segments are code or data type segments instead of
> relying on an IRET fault.

I think that is likely a good idea regardless of this particular issue.

And I don't think you need to even check the segment for any kind of
validity - all you need to check that it's a valid selector.

And we *kind* of do that already, with the x86 ptrace code checking

  static inline bool invalid_selector(u16 value)
  {
        return unlikely(value != 0 && (value & SEGMENT_RPL_MASK) != USER_RPL);
  }

but the thing is, I think we could limit that a lot more.

I think the only valid GDT entries are 0-15 (that includes the default
kernel segments, but they don't contain anything interesting), so we
could tighten that selector check to say that it has to be either a
LDT entry or a selector < 15.

So add some kind of requirement for "(value & 4) || (value < 8*16)", perhaps?

              Linus

      reply	other threads:[~2023-12-09 20:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-06  0:43 [PATCH 0/2] x86: UMIP emulation leaking kernel addresses Michal Luczaj
2023-12-06  0:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/traps: Attempt UMIP fixup only on #GP(0) Michal Luczaj
2023-12-06  0:43 ` [PATCH 2/2] selftests/x86: UMIP DPL=0 segment base address info leak test Michal Luczaj
2023-12-09 15:53 ` [PATCH 0/2] x86: UMIP emulation leaking kernel addresses Borislav Petkov
2023-12-10 17:08   ` Michal Luczaj
2023-12-09 17:16 ` Brian Gerst
2023-12-09 20:08   ` Linus Torvalds [this message]

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