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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 19/31] timers: net: Use del_timer_shutdown() before freeing timer
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 13:15:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wjAjW2P5To82+CAM0Rx8RexQBHPTVZBWBPHyEPGm37oFA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221027155513.60b211e2@gandalf.local.home>

On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 12:55 PM Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
>
> I think we need to update this code to squeeze in a del_timer_shutdown() to
> make sure that the timers are never restarted.

So the reason the networking code does this is that it can't just do
the old 'sync()' thing, the timers are deleted in contexts where that
isn't valid.

Which is also afaik why the networking code does that whole "timer
implies a refcount to the socket" and then does the

    if (del_timer(timer))
           sock_put()

thing (ie if the del_timer failed - possibly because it was already
running - you leave the refcount alone).

So the networking code cannot do the del_timer_shutdown() for the same
reason it cannot do the del_timer_sync(): it can't afford to wait for
the timer to stop running.

I suspect it needs something like a new "del_timer_shutdown_async()"
that isn't synchronous, but does that

 - acts as del_timer in that it doesn't wait, and returns a success if
it could just remove the pending case

 - does that "mark timer for shutdown" in that success case

or something similar.

But the networking people will know better.

               Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-27 20:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-27 15:05 [RFC][PATCH v2 00/31] timers: Use del_timer_shutdown() before freeing timers Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 01/31] timers: Add del_timer_shutdown() to be called " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 02/31] timers: s390/cmm: Use del_timer_shutdown() before freeing timer Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 03/31] timers: sh: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 05/31] timers: ACPI: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 16:56   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-11-01  1:11   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 06/31] timers: atm: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 07/31] timers: PM: Use del_timer_shutdown() Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 17:45   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 08/31] timers: Bluetooth: Use del_timer_shutdown() before freeing timer Steven Rostedt
2022-10-29  0:12   ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2022-10-29  0:33     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 09/31] timers: hangcheck: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 10/31] timers: ipmi: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:20   ` Corey Minyard
2022-10-27 15:22     ` Corey Minyard
2022-10-27 15:31       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 11/31] timers: random: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:55   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 14/31] timers: HID: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 16/31] timers: mISDN: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 17/31] timers: leds: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 19/31] timers: net: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 19:55   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 20:15     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2022-10-27 20:34       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 20:48         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-27 21:07           ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 21:15             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 22:35             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 22:31               ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 22:46                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-10-30 17:22                   ` Paolo Abeni
2022-11-03 21:51                     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-11-04  0:00                       ` Eric Dumazet
2022-11-04  5:51                         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-11-04 16:14                           ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-27 21:07         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 15:16           ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 20/31] timers: usb: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 20:38   ` Alan Stern
2022-10-27 20:42     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 21:22       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28  5:23   ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-28 10:14     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 14:00       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 18:01     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 18:10       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 19:59         ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-28 20:40           ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 23:25             ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-28 23:29               ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-29 14:52           ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-29 19:19             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-29 22:56               ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-30 15:48                 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-31 15:50                   ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-31 20:14                     ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 21/31] timers: cgroup: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 22/31] timers: workqueue: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 23/31] timers: nfc: pn533: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 24/31] timers: pcmcia: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 25/31] timers: scsi: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 26/31] timers: tty: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-31  8:34   ` Jiri Slaby
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 27/31] timers: ext4: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 28/31] timers: fs/nilfs2: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28  5:12   ` Ryusuke Konishi
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 29/31] timers: ALSA: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28  9:17   ` Takashi Iwai
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 30/31] timers: x86/mce: Use __init_timer() for resetting timers Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 15:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 31/31] timers: Expand DEBUG_OBJECTS_TIMER to check if it ever was used Steven Rostedt
     [not found] ` <20221027150925.819019339@goodmis.org>
2022-10-27 15:19   ` [RFC][PATCH v2 04/31] timers: block: Use del_timer_shutdown() before freeing timer Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28  8:26     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-10-28 10:24       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 13:56         ` Jens Axboe
2022-10-28 14:06           ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 14:11             ` Jens Axboe
2022-10-28 14:30               ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 15:11   ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found] ` <20221027150927.371916000@goodmis.org>
2022-10-27 15:20   ` [RFC][PATCH v2 12/31] timers: dma-buf: " Steven Rostedt
     [not found] ` <20221027150927.611233945@goodmis.org>
2022-10-27 15:20   ` [RFC][PATCH v2 13/31] timers: drm: " Steven Rostedt
     [not found] ` <20221027150927.992061541@goodmis.org>
2022-10-27 15:21   ` [RFC][PATCH v2 15/31] timers: Input: " Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 16:38     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2022-10-27 15:52 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 00/31] timers: Use del_timer_shutdown() before freeing timers Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-27 16:01   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-10-27 17:23     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 18:58 ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-27 19:02   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 19:11     ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-27 19:11     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-27 19:16       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 19:44         ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-27 19:20   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 19:27     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 19:38       ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-27 22:24 ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-27 22:58   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-27 23:24     ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-27 23:55       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28  0:54         ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-28 15:30     ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-28 16:10     ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found] ` <20221028021815.3130-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2022-10-28  3:17   ` [RFC][PATCH v2 20/31] timers: usb: Use del_timer_shutdown() before freeing timer Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 18:50 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 00/31] timers: Use del_timer_shutdown() before freeing timers Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 20:12   ` Trond Myklebust
2022-10-28 20:49     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-10-28 21:57       ` Trond Myklebust
2022-10-27 23:13 [RFC][PATCH v2 19/31] timers: net: Use del_timer_shutdown() before freeing timer Guenter Roeck

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