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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	He Zhe <zhe.he@windriver.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] tracing/x86: Save CR2 before tracing irqsoff on error_entry
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 11:25:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wjEHqY1+DxJ-_oNWTuTNQwMPtJKJh_HE=e1F60V+TwUfQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVaCZKjXj9ZqtvQgLk2DqXwNCh7b5DHvSnNAORsqJXCcQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:21 AM Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> I dunno.  Lots of people at least use to have serious commercial interest in it.

Yes, it used to be a big deal. But full virtualization has gotten a
lot more common and better.

> Hey Xen folks, how close are we to being able to say "if you want to
> run a new kernel, you need to switch to PVH or similar"?

I'd also like to know if we could perhaps at least limit PV to just
the thing that people care most deeply about.

For example, maybe people notice that they really deeply care about
the PV spinlocks because they help a lot for some loads, but don't
care so much about the low-level CPU PV stuff any more because modern
CPUs do _those_ things so well these days.

So it might not be an all-or-nothing thing, but a gradual "let's stop
supporting xyz under PV, because it causes pain and isn't worth it".

                Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-21 18:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-21  2:15 [RFC][PATCH] tracing/x86: Save CR2 before tracing irqsoff on error_entry Steven Rostedt
2019-03-21  8:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-21  9:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-21 10:45     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-21 13:32       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-03-21 13:55         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-03-21 17:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-21 17:22         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-21 18:05           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-03-21 18:10             ` Steven Rostedt
2019-03-21 18:27               ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-03-21 20:50                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-22  2:52                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-03-21 18:28               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-21 18:55                 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-03-21 19:31                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-21 19:50                     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-03-21 20:03                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-21 20:11                         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-03-21 18:18             ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-21 18:20               ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-03-21 18:25                 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2019-03-21 18:37                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-21 18:39                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-03-21 20:00                       ` Andrew Cooper
2019-03-21 20:35                         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-03-21 18:38                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-03-21 18:42                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-21 18:22               ` hpa
2019-03-22  5:54               ` Juergen Gross
2019-03-21 18:27             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-21 18:28               ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-03-21 18:33                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-21 13:04   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-17  1:52 ` He Zhe

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