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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	John Johansen <john.johansen@canonical.com>,
	 Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	Kevin Locke <kevin@kevinlocke.name>,
	 Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>,
	 Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	 Kentaro Takeda <takedakn@nttdata.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [6.8-rc1 Regression] Unable to exec apparmor_parser from virt-aa-helper
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2024 09:17:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wjF=zwZ88vRZe-AvexnmP1OCpKZSp_2aCfTpGeH1vLMkA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a9210754-2f94-4075-872f-8f6a18f4af07@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 at 06:17, Tetsuo Handa
<penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp> wrote:
>
> On 2024/01/25 3:27, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > The whole cred use of current->in_execve in tomoyo should
> > *also* be fixed, but I didn't even try to follow what it actually
> > wanted.
>
> Due to TOMOYO's unique domain transition (transits to new domain before
> execve() succeeds and returns to old domain if execve() failed), TOMOYO
> depends on a tricky ordering shown below.

Ok, that doesn't really clarify anything for me.

I'm less interested in what the call paths are, and more like "_Why_
is all this needed for tomoyo?"

Why doesn't tomoyo just install the new cred at "commit_creds()" time?

(The security hooks that surround that  are
"->bprm_committing_creds()" and "->bprm_committed_creds()")

IOW, the whole "save things across two *independent* execve() calls"
seems crazy.

Very strange and confusing.

                    Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-25 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-24 16:19 [6.8-rc1 Regression] Unable to exec apparmor_parser from virt-aa-helper Kevin Locke
2024-01-24 16:35 ` Kees Cook
2024-01-24 16:46   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-24 16:54     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-24 17:10       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-24 17:21         ` Kees Cook
2024-01-24 17:27           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-24 18:27             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-24 18:29               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-24 19:02               ` Kees Cook
2024-01-24 19:41                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-01-25 14:16               ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-01-25 17:17                 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2024-01-27  7:04                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-01-27 11:00                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-01-27 11:23                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-01-24 18:57         ` Kees Cook
2024-01-27  5:17           ` John Johansen
2024-01-24 17:15   ` Kees Cook

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