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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Charles Mirabile <cmirabil@redhat.com>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	 linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfs: relax linkat() AT_EMPTY_PATH - aka flink() - requirements
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 13:22:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wjTm-WVoQNnG933Nc3xfup-XrLWJ2d+Y4c-f-3b6ya3rQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABe3_aEccnYHm6_pvXKNYkWQ98N9q4JWXTbftgwOMMo+FrmA0Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 at 13:08, Charles Mirabile <cmirabil@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> The problem with this is that another process might be able to access
> the file during via that name during the brief period before it is
> unlinked. If I am not using NFS, I am always going to prefer using
> O_TMPFILE. I would rather be able to do that without restriction even
> if it isn't the most robust solution by your definition.


Oh, absolutely. I think the right pattern is basically some variation of

    fd = open(filename, O_TMPFILE | O_WRONLY, 0600);
    if (fd < 0) {
        char template{...] = ".tmpfileXXXXXX";
        fd = mkstmp(template);
        unlink(template);
    }
    .. now act on fd to initialize it ..
    linkat(fd, "", AT_FDCWD, "finalname", AT_EMPTY_PATH);

which should work reasonably well in various environments.

Clearly O_TMPFILE is the superior option when it exists. I'm just
saying that anything that *relies* on it existing is dubious.

              Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-11 20:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-11  0:10 [PATCH] vfs: relax linkat() AT_EMPTY_PATH - aka flink() - requirements Linus Torvalds
2024-04-11  0:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-11  2:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-11  9:04   ` Christian Brauner
2024-04-11 12:25     ` Christian Brauner
2024-04-11 16:21       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-12  8:56         ` Christian Brauner
2024-04-11 16:15     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-11 16:44       ` Charles Mirabile
2024-04-11 17:29         ` Charles Mirabile
2024-04-11 17:35           ` Charles Mirabile
2024-04-11 18:13             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-11 19:34               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-12  7:45                 ` Christian Brauner
2024-04-12 15:36                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-11 20:08               ` Charles Mirabile
2024-04-11 20:22                 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2024-04-12  6:44               ` Christian Brauner
2024-04-12  6:41         ` Christian Brauner
2024-04-12  9:07 ` Christian Brauner
2024-04-12 17:43   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-13  9:41     ` Christian Brauner
2024-04-13 15:16       ` Christian Brauner
2024-04-13 17:07         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-12 19:22   ` [PATCH] " Charles Mirabile

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