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[209.85.208.169]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f22sm1352606lfc.68.2021.03.21.15.23.33 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 21 Mar 2021 15:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-f169.google.com with SMTP id r20so18761693ljk.4 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 15:23:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9bd0:: with SMTP id w16mr7593653ljj.465.1616365412814; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 15:23:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Linus Torvalds Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 15:23:17 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] ext4 fixes for v5.12 To: "Theodore Ts'o" , "zhangyi (F)" Cc: Ext4 Developers List , Linux Kernel Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 11:31 AM Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > zhangyi (F) (3): > ext4: find old entry again if failed to rename whiteout > ext4: do not iput inode under running transaction in ext4_rename() > ext4: do not try to set xattr into ea_inode if value is empty Side note: this is obviously entirely up to the author, but I think it would be nice if we would encourage people to use their native names if/when they want to. Maybe this "zhangyi (F)" is how they _want_ to write their name in the kernel, and that's obviously fine if so. But at the same time, coming from Finland, I remember how people who had the "odd" characters (=C3=A5=C3=A4=C3=B6) in their name ended up replac= ing them with the US-ASCII version (generally "aa" "ae" and "oe"), and it always just looked bad to a native speaker. Particularly annoying in public contexts. At the same time, for the same reason, I can also understand people not wanting to even expose those characters at all, because then non-native speakers invariably messed it up even worse... Anyway, I think and hope that we have the infrastructure to do it right not just for Latin1, but the more complex non-Western character sets too. And as a result should possibly encourage people to use their native names if they want to. At least make people aware that it _should_ work. Again, maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree, and in this case "zhangyi (F) " is just what zhangyi prefers simply because it's easier/more convenient. But I just wanted to mention it, because we _do_ have examples of it working. Not many, but some: git log --pretty=3D"%an" --since=3D2.years | sort -u | tail including examples of having the Westernized name in parenthesis for the "use that one if you can't do the real one" case.. Linus