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From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] minmax: clamp more efficiently by avoiding extra comparison
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2022 12:48:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHmME9p+SKTHzniw=TsC=vnQsyCuBa08+LcK-CsFcjA58K+ifA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHmME9osJiKg8-o-OdfCPS6t_fZ=zgGKZdy0CgybaK2NDv8XLA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey again,

On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 12:40 PM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 12:36 PM Andy Shevchenko
> <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 12:06:21PM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> > > Currently the clamp algorithm does:
> > >
> > >       if (val > hi)
> > >               val = hi;
> > >       if (val < lo)
> > >               val = lo;
> > >
> > > But since hi > lo by definition, this can be made more efficient with:
> >
> > It's strongly speaking, but we have to proof that, right?
> > So, while I haven't checked the code, this change should also
> > include (does it?) the corresponding compile-time checks (for
> > constant arguments) in similar way how it's done for GENMASK().
> >
> > Otherwise I have no objections.
>
> I think most cases are with compile time constants, but some cases are
> with variables. What should we do in that case? Checking variables at
> runtime incurs the same cost as the old code. I guess we could do this
> fast thing for constants and the slower old thing for non-constants?
> Or not do either, keep this commit as is, and just accept that if you
> pass bogus bounds to clamp, you're going to end up with something
> weird, which is already the case now so not a big deal?

Actually, yea, I think we should keep this commit as-is and not add
additional checking becauseeeee not only is hi>lo by definition, but
both for the old code and for the new code, the result of lo>hi is
total nonsense:

Assuming hi > lo, these snippets all yield the same result:

        if (val > hi)
                val = hi;
        if (val < lo)
                val = lo;

        if (val > hi)
                val = hi;
        else if (val < lo)
                val = lo;

        if (val < lo)
                val = lo;
        if (val > hi)
                val = hi;

        if (val < lo)
                val = lo;
        else if (val > hi)
                val = hi;

Assuming lo > hi, and the first condition triggers, these snippets all
yield different results, all of which are undefined nonsense:

        if (val > hi)
                val = hi;
        if (val < lo)
                val = lo;
--> val is lo

        if (val > hi)
                val = hi;
        else if (val < lo)
                val = lo;
--> val is hi

        if (val < lo)
                val = lo;
        if (val > hi)
                val = hi;
--> val is hi

        if (val < lo)
                val = lo;
        else if (val > hi)
                val = hi;
--> val is lo

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-23 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-23 10:06 [PATCH] minmax: clamp more efficiently by avoiding extra comparison Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-09-23 10:35 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-23 10:40   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-09-23 10:48     ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2022-09-23 15:12       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-23 15:13         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-09-23 15:40           ` [PATCH v2] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-09-23 16:41             ` Kees Cook
2022-09-23 16:42               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-09-23 16:53               ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-23 16:54                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-09-23 19:47             ` Kees Cook
2022-09-23 22:54             ` Andrew Morton
2022-09-24  0:02               ` Kees Cook
2022-09-24 10:37               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-09-25 16:29                 ` Andrew Morton
2022-09-26 10:00                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-26 12:23                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-09-26 13:34                     ` [PATCH v3 1/2] minmax: sanity check constant bounds when clamping Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-09-26 13:34                       ` [PATCH v3 2/2] minmax: clamp more efficiently by avoiding extra comparison Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-09-26 18:30                         ` Kees Cook
2022-09-26 21:33                           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-09-26 13:46                       ` [PATCH v3 1/2] minmax: sanity check constant bounds when clamping Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-26 18:26                       ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 13:41                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-04 14:39                           ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 15:01                             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-09-26 18:30                     ` [PATCH v2] minmax: clamp more efficiently by avoiding extra comparison Kees Cook
2022-09-23 15:10     ` [PATCH] " Andy Shevchenko
2022-09-23 15:11       ` Jason A. Donenfeld

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