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From: Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>
To: Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@arm.com>
Cc: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Benson Leung <bleung@chromium.org>,
	Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.balletbo@collabora.com>,
	hsinyi@chromium.org, Nicolas Boichat <drinkcat@chromium.org>,
	Gwendal Grignou <gwendal@chromium.org>,
	Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>,
	ctheegal@codeaurora.org, Guenter Roeck <groeck@chromium.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cros_ec_spi: Even though we're RT priority, don't bump cpu freq
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 13:55:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJWu+oreQRCAkBhNQ-n6BPjYsdOL074ff8551sF3r7OxsseEVQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200624175236.nblndmg6dfq2vr2u@e107158-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:52 PM Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On 06/24/20 13:35, Joel Fernandes wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > Doing the in-kernel opt-out via API should be fine, I think. But this will
> > > need to be discussed in the wider circle. It will already clash with this for
> > > example
> > >
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200619172011.5810-1-qais.yousef@arm.com/
> >
> > Have not yet looked closer at that patch, but are you saying this
> > patch clashes with that work? Sorry I am operating on 2 hours of sleep
> > here.
>
> The series is an optimization to remove the uclamp overhead from the scheduler
> fastpath until the userspace uses it. It introduces a static key that is
> disabled by default and will cause uclamp logic not to execute in the fast
> path. Once the userspace starts using util clamp, which we detect by either
>
>         1. Changing uclamp value of a task with sched_setattr()
>         2. Modifying the default sysctl_sched_util_clamp_{min, max}
>         3. Modifying the default cpu.uclamp.{min, max} value in cgroup
>
> If we start having in-kernel users changing uclamp value this means drivers
> will cause the system to opt-in into uclamp automatically even if the
> userspace doesn't actually use it.
>
> I think we can solve this by providing a special API to opt-out safely. Which
> is the right thing to do anyway even if we didn't have this clash.

Makes sense, thanks.

 - Joel

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-24 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-10 22:18 [PATCH] cros_ec_spi: Even though we're RT priority, don't bump cpu freq Douglas Anderson
2020-06-11 11:03 ` Quentin Perret
2020-06-11 17:48   ` Doug Anderson
2020-06-12  9:24     ` Quentin Perret
2020-06-12 12:34       ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-12 13:47         ` Quentin Perret
2020-06-12 14:00           ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-18 21:31         ` Doug Anderson
2020-06-19 15:31           ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-22 18:19             ` Doug Anderson
2020-06-23 15:56               ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-12 12:52 ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-18 21:18   ` Doug Anderson
2020-06-19 15:38     ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-22 18:21       ` Doug Anderson
2020-06-23 16:40         ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-24 15:49           ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-24 16:55             ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-24 17:35               ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-24 17:52                 ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-24 17:55                   ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2020-06-24 18:29                     ` Doug Anderson
2020-06-25 14:20                       ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-24 16:01           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-24 17:14             ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-24 15:56     ` Peter Zijlstra

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