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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>, Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Lucas Stach <l.stach@pengutronix.de>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/9] driver core: Fix some device links issues and add "consumer autoprobe" flag
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 10:56:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0gBYyoumVkLTuEcHsFE8QKEXdYuhDRGwmvoKPhx7gPvgQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <24600564.pMaimVIQbW@aspire.rjw.lan>

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 12:27 PM Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 9:15:49 AM CET Ulf Hansson wrote:
> > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 12:45, Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 12:40 PM Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 4:18 PM Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org> wrote:

[cut]

> > >
> > > For example, if the consumer device is suspended after the
> > > device_link_add() that incremented the supplier's PM-runtime count and
> > > then resumed again, the rpm_active refcount will be greater than one
> > > because of the last resume and not because of the initial link
> > > creation.  In that case, dropping the supplier's PM-runtime count on
> > > link deletion may not work as expected.
> >
> > I see what your are saying and I must admit, by looking at the code,
> > that it has turned into being rather complicated. Assuming of good
> > reasons, of course.
> >
> > Anyway, I will play a little bit more with my tests to see what I can find out.
> >
> > >
> > > > Arguably, device_link_del() could be made automatically drop the
> > > > supplier's PM-runtime count by one if the link's rpm_active refcount
> > > > is not one, but there will be failing scenarios in that case too
> > > > AFAICS.
> >
> > Let's see.
>
> So for the record, below is the (untested) patch I'm thinking about.
>
> Having considered this for some time, I think that it would be better to
> try to drop the supplier's PM-runtime usage counter on link removal even if
> the link doesn't go away then.  That would be more consistent at least IMO.

So I can't convince myself that this is the case.

Either way, if there are two callers of device_link_add() for one
consumer-supplier pair trying to add a stateless link between them and
one of these callers passes DL_FLAG_RPM_ACTIVE set in the flags to it,
there may be issues regardless of what device_link_del() and
device_link_remove() do.  However, if they decrement the link's
rpm_active refcount (and possibly the supplier's PM-runtime usage
counter too), the supplier may be suspended prematurely, whereas in
the other case (no decrementation of rpm_active, which how the code
works after this series) it may just be prevented from suspending.  To
me, the former is worse than the latter.

Moreover, there is a workaround for the latter issue that seems to be
easy enough: it is sufficient to let the consumer runtime suspend
after calling device_link_add() to create the link (with
DL_FLAG_RPM_ACTIVE set) and before trying to remove it.

Because of the above, I'm just going to post a patch to document the
current behavior of the code as a known limitation.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-06  9:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-01  0:44 [PATCH v2 0/9] driver core: Fix some device links issues and add "consumer autoprobe" flag Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-02-01  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] driver core: Fix DL_FLAG_AUTOREMOVE_SUPPLIER device link flag handling Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-02-01  0:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] driver core: Avoid careless re-use of existing device links Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-02-07 19:03   ` Lukas Wunner
2019-02-07 19:11     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-02-01  0:47 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] driver core: Do not resume suppliers under device_links_write_lock() Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-02-01  0:49 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] driver core: Fix handling of runtime PM flags in device_link_add() Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-02-07 19:15   ` Lukas Wunner
2019-02-07 19:20     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-02-01  0:50 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] driver core: Fix adding device links to probing suppliers Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-02-01  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] driver core: Do not call rpm_put_suppliers() in pm_runtime_drop_link() Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-02-01  0:54 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] IOMMU: Make dwo drivers use stateless device links Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-02-01  0:58 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] driver core: Make driver core own stateful " Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-02-01  0:59 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] driver core: Add device link flag DL_FLAG_AUTOPROBE_CONSUMER Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-02-01  9:05 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] driver core: Fix some device links issues and add "consumer autoprobe" flag Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-02-01  9:45   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-02-01 15:17 ` Ulf Hansson
2019-02-04 11:40   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-02-04 11:45     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-02-05  8:15       ` Ulf Hansson
2019-02-05 11:26         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-02-06  9:56           ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2019-02-06 11:23             ` Ulf Hansson
2019-02-06 12:10               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-02-06 13:02                 ` Ulf Hansson
2019-02-06 23:16                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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