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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
To: Pingfan Liu <kernelfans@gmail.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv3 0/4] drivers/base: bugfix for supplier<-consumer ordering in device_kset
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 10:25:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0gxJ9LJ328WbgPrZCV-0SEiO31trsTSYYS8L95P4kfkbA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFgQCTsCjkDWJsNog_sTnS-ZaZ87fMFpKq1ekVSUG4MDs6K_jw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 6:24 AM, Pingfan Liu <kernelfans@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 9:55 PM Pingfan Liu <kernelfans@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 4:47 PM Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de> wrote:
>> > > [cc += Kishon Vijay Abraham]
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 11:18:28AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> > >> OK, so calling devices_kset_move_last() from really_probe() clearly is
>> > >> a mistake.
>> > >>
>> > >> I'm not really sure what the intention of it was as the changelog of
>> > >> commit 52cdbdd49853d doesn't really explain that (why would it be
>> > >> insufficient without that change?)
>> > >
>> > > It seems 52cdbdd49853d fixed an issue with boards which have an MMC
>> > > whose reset pin needs to be driven high on shutdown, lest the MMC
>> > > won't be found on the next boot.
>> > >
>> > > The boards' devicetrees use a kludge wherein the reset pin is modelled
>> > > as a regulator.  The regulator is enabled when the MMC probes and
>> > > disabled on driver unbind and shutdown.  As a result, the pin is driven
>> > > low on shutdown and the MMC is not found on the next boot.
>> > >
>> > > To fix this, another kludge was invented wherein the GPIO expander
>> > > driving the reset pin unconditionally drives all its pins high on
>> > > shutdown, see pcf857x_shutdown() in drivers/gpio/gpio-pcf857x.c
>> > > (commit adc284755055, "gpio: pcf857x: restore the initial line state
>> > > of all pcf lines").
>> > >
>> > > For this kludge to work, the GPIO expander's ->shutdown hook needs to
>> > > be executed after the MMC expander's ->shutdown hook.
>> > >
>> > > Commit 52cdbdd49853d achieved that by reordering devices_kset according
>> > > to the probe order.  Apparently the MMC probes after the GPIO expander,
>> > > possibly because it returns -EPROBE_DEFER if the vmmc regulator isn't
>> > > available yet, see mmc_regulator_get_supply().
>> > >
>> > > Note, I'm just piecing the information together from git history,
>> > > I'm not responsible for these kludges.  (I'm innocent!)
>> >
>> > Sure enough. :-)
>> >
>> > In any case, calling devices_kset_move_last() in really_probe() is
>> > plain broken and if its only purpose was to address a single, arguably
>> > kludgy, use case, let's just get rid of it in the first place IMO.
>> >
>> Yes, if it is only used for a single use case.
>>
> Think it again, I saw other potential issue with the current code.
> device_link_add->device_reorder_to_tail() can break the
> "supplier<-consumer" order. During moving children after parent's
> supplier, it ignores the order of child's consumer.

What do you mean?

> Beside this, essentially both devices_kset_move_after/_before() and
> device_pm_move_after/_before() expose  the shutdown order to the
> indirect caller,  and we can not expect that the caller can not handle
> it correctly. It should be a job of drivers core.

Arguably so, but that's how those functions were designed and the
callers should be aware of the limitation.

If they aren't, there is a bug in the caller.

> It is hard to extract high dimension info and pack them into one dimension
> linked-list.

Well, yes and no.

We know it for a fact that there is a linear ordering that will work.
It is inefficient to figure it out every time during system suspend
and resume, for one and that's why we have dpm_list.

Now, if we have it for suspend and resume, it can also be used for shutdown.

> And in theory, it is warranted that the shutdown seq is
> correct by using device tree info. More important, it is cheap with
> the data structure in hand. So I think it is time to resolve the issue
> once for all.

Not the way you want to do that, though.

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-08  8:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-03  6:50 [PATCHv3 0/4] drivers/base: bugfix for supplier<-consumer ordering in device_kset Pingfan Liu
2018-07-03  6:50 ` [PATCHv3 1/4] drivers/base: fold the routine of device's shutdown into a func Pingfan Liu
2018-07-03  6:50 ` [PATCHv3 2/4] drivers/base: utilize device tree info to shutdown devices Pingfan Liu
2018-07-03  7:51   ` Lukas Wunner
2018-07-03  9:26     ` Pingfan Liu
2018-07-04  3:10       ` Pingfan Liu
2018-07-03 10:58   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-07-03 17:03     ` Pavel Tatashin
2018-07-04 17:04   ` kbuild test robot
2018-07-05 10:11   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-07-06  3:02     ` Pingfan Liu
2018-07-06  9:53       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-07-07  4:02         ` Pingfan Liu
2018-07-06 10:00       ` [PATCH] driver core: Drop devices_kset_move_last() call from really_probe() Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-07-09 13:57         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-07-09 21:35           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-07-09 22:06             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-07-10  6:19               ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2018-07-10 10:32                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-07-10 10:29               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-07-10  6:33         ` Pingfan Liu
2018-07-10 11:35         ` [PATCH] driver core: Partially revert "driver core: correct device's shutdown order" Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-07-10 12:22           ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2018-07-10 12:38             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-07-10 12:51           ` [PATCH v2] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-07-10 12:59             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-07-10 15:40               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-07-10 15:47                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-07-10 19:13                   ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2018-07-03  6:50 ` [PATCHv3 3/4] drivers/base: clean up the usage of devices_kset_move_last() Pingfan Liu
2018-07-03 14:26   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-07-04  4:40     ` Pingfan Liu
2018-07-04 10:17       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-07-05  2:32         ` Pingfan Liu
2018-07-03  6:50 ` [PATCHv3 4/4] Revert "driver core: correct device's shutdown order" Pingfan Liu
2018-07-03 14:35 ` [PATCHv3 0/4] drivers/base: bugfix for supplier<-consumer ordering in device_kset Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-07-04  2:47   ` Pingfan Liu
2018-07-04 10:21     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-07-05  2:44       ` Pingfan Liu
2018-07-05  9:18         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-07-06  8:36           ` Lukas Wunner
2018-07-06  8:47             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-07-06 13:55               ` Pingfan Liu
2018-07-07  4:24                 ` Pingfan Liu
2018-07-08  8:25                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2018-07-09  6:48                     ` Pingfan Liu
2018-07-09  7:48                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-07-09  8:40                         ` Pingfan Liu
2018-07-09  8:58                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-07-06 10:02             ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2018-07-06 13:52             ` Pingfan Liu

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