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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] PM / core: Direct DPM_FLAG_SMART_SUSPEND optimization
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 17:35:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0hEP6L-dPSLhQohQSQgk+-gJDxjj5m55D_4yO1-_=p9LQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDyKFqd6qk66C4M0h-4WzLjt_p=LyS1unCAzLxKrUYoSMbz6Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org> wrote:
> On 19 December 2017 at 12:19, Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>> On 10 December 2017 at 01:00, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net> wrote:
>>>>> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
>>>>>
>>
>> [cut]
>>
>>>
>>>> Moreover, what happens when/if a driver that has deployed this
>>>> solution, starts being used on a new SoC and then additional
>>>> operations during system suspend becomes required (for example
>>>> pinctrls that needs to be put in a system sleep state)? Then
>>>> everything falls apart, doesn't it?
>>>
>>> Then you runtime-resume the device in ->suspend() and the remaining
>>> callbacks will run for you just fine.
>>
>> BTW, I guess you'll need a middle layer in that case anyway so that
>> the driver doesn't have to distinguish between platforms it has to
>> work with which makes the argument somewhat moot.
>
> No, this isn't the case. Let's take the pinctrl as an example.
>
> The pinctrl system sleep state could be optionally defined in the DT,
> depending on the platform.
>
> All the driver shall do, is to try to set the state, if it has been defined.

And how exactly does the driver know what state should be set during
system suspend, say?

Anyway, though, as I said, nothing forces you to set
DPM_FLAG_SMART_SUSPEND.  Don't set it if it is not suitable for you
and no one else is going to be affected.

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-19 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-09 23:55 [PATCH 0/4] PM / core: Direct handling of DPM_FLAG_SMART_SUSPEND and DPM_FLAG_LEAVE_SUSPENDED Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 1/4] PM / core: Use dev_pm_skip_next_resume_phases() internally Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-11 10:03   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-12-11 10:30   ` Ulf Hansson
2017-12-09 23:58 ` [PATCH 2/4] PM / core: Add helpers for subsystem callback selection Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-11 10:08   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-12-10  0:00 ` [PATCH 3/4] PM / core: Direct DPM_FLAG_SMART_SUSPEND optimization Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-19  7:38   ` Ulf Hansson
2017-12-19 11:13     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-19 11:19       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-19 13:15         ` Ulf Hansson
2017-12-19 16:35           ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2017-12-19 13:10       ` Ulf Hansson
2017-12-19 16:29         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-19 16:54           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-10  0:02 ` [PATCH 4/4] PM / core: Direct DPM_FLAG_LEAVE_SUSPENDED handling Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-01-02 11:32 ` [PATCH 0/4] PM / core: Direct handling of DPM_FLAG_SMART_SUSPEND and DPM_FLAG_LEAVE_SUSPENDED Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-01-02 12:17   ` Ulf Hansson
2018-01-02 12:26     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-01-02 15:57     ` Alan Stern
2018-01-02 13:26   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-01-03  0:29 ` [PATCH 0/7] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-01-03  0:31   ` [PATCH 1/7] PM / core: Add helpers for subsystem callback selection Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-01-03  0:32   ` [PATCH 2/7] PM / core: Direct DPM_FLAG_SMART_SUSPEND optimization Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-01-03  0:33   ` [PATCH 3/7] PM / core: Direct DPM_FLAG_LEAVE_SUSPENDED handling Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-01-03  0:34   ` [PATCH 4/7] PM / mfd: intel-lpss: Use DPM_FLAG_SMART_SUSPEND Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-01-03  0:35   ` [PATCH 5/7] PM: i2c-designware-platdrv: Use DPM_FLAG_SMART_PREPARE Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-01-08 14:31     ` Jarkko Nikula
2018-01-08 14:36       ` Wolfram Sang
2018-01-03  0:37   ` [PATCH 6/7] PM: i2c-designware-platdrv: Optimize power management Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-01-08 14:31     ` Jarkko Nikula
2018-01-08 14:36       ` Wolfram Sang
2018-01-03  0:38   ` [PATCH 7/7] PCI / PM: Use SMART_SUSPEND and LEAVE_SUSPENDED flags for PCIe ports Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-01-04 22:14     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-01-04 23:28       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-01-08 14:33   ` [PATCH 0/7] PM / core: Direct handling of DPM_FLAG_SMART_SUSPEND and DPM_FLAG_LEAVE_SUSPENDED Jarkko Nikula
2018-01-09  0:29     ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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