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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] kobject: send KOBJ_REMOVE uevent when the object is removed from sysfs
Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 10:26:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0ii+hMh5DCuYuuO9auFHD0GLxmOVR1FoDmCwrNEnh9gMw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200526055806.GA2576013@kroah.com>

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 7:58 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman
<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 03:49:01PM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 8:34 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman
> > <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > It is possible for a KOBJ_REMOVE uevent to be sent to userspace way
> > > after the files are actually gone from sysfs, due to how reference
> > > counting for kobjects work.  This should not be a problem, but it would
> > > be good to properly send the information when things are going away, not
> > > at some later point in time in the future.
> > >
> > > Before this move, if a kobject's parent was torn down before the child,
> >
> > ^^^^ And this is the root of the problem and what has to be fixed.
>
> I fixed that in patch one of this series.  Turns out the user of the
> kobject was not even expecting that to happen.
>
> > > when the call to kobject_uevent() happened, the parent walk to try to
> > > reconstruct the full path of the kobject could be a total mess and cause
> > > crashes.  It's not good to try to tear down a kobject tree from top
> > > down, but let's at least try to not to crash if a user does so.
> >
> > One can try, but if we keep proper reference counting then kobject
> > core should take care of actually releasing objects in the right
> > order. I do not think you should keep this patch, and instead see if
> > we can push call to kobject_put(kobj->parent) into kobject_cleanup().
>
> I tried that, but there was a _lot_ of underflow errors reported, so
> there's something else happening.  Or my attempt was incorrect :)

So it looks like there is something in there that's been overlooked so far.

I'll try to look at the Guenter's traces and figure out what went
wrong after the Heikki's patch.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-26  8:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-24 15:30 [PATCH 1/2] software node: implement software_node_unregister() Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-05-24 15:30 ` [PATCH 2/2] kobject: send KOBJ_REMOVE uevent when the object is removed from sysfs Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-05-25 11:07   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-05-25 22:49   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-05-26  5:58     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-05-26  8:26       ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2020-05-27  7:50         ` Heikki Krogerus
2020-05-27  8:34           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-05-27  9:01             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-05-27 14:34               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-05-27 22:25               ` Guenter Roeck
2020-05-28 10:57                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-05-28 13:56                   ` Guenter Roeck
2020-05-28 14:03                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-05-24 16:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] software node: implement software_node_unregister() Guenter Roeck
2020-05-25  2:44   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-05-25  7:59 ` Petr Mladek
2020-05-25 11:24 ` Heikki Krogerus
2020-05-26  0:12 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-05-28 20:25 ` Brendan Higgins

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