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From: jim.cromie@gmail.com
To: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, seanpaul@chromium.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, joe@perches.com,
	intel-gvt-dev@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v7 0/9] dyndbg: drm.debug adaptation
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 08:42:52 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJfuBxw_YFvCtHMwVE0K0fa5GJbrZy4hTOSS9FebeDs6fxUUCA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y1rllFeOnT9/PQVA@intel.com>

On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 2:10 PM Ville Syrjälä
<ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 01:55:39PM -0600, jim.cromie@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 9:59 AM Ville Syrjälä
> > <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 09:37:52AM -0600, jim.cromie@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 9:08 AM Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/21/22 05:18, Jani Nikula wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, 20 Oct 2022, Ville Syrjälä <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 03:02:34PM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> > > > > >>> On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 11:28:43PM -0600, Jim Cromie wrote:
> > > > > >>>> hi Greg, Dan, Jason, DRM-folk,
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> heres follow-up to V6:
> > > > > >>>>   rebased on driver-core/driver-core-next for -v6 applied bits (thanks)
> > > > > >>>>   rework drm_debug_enabled{_raw,_instrumented,} per Dan.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> It excludes:
> > > > > >>>>   nouveau parts (immature)
> > > > > >>>>   tracefs parts (I missed --to=Steve on v6)
> > > > > >>>>   split _ddebug_site and de-duplicate experiment (way unready)
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> IOW, its the remaining commits of V6 on which Dan gave his Reviewed-by.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> If these are good to apply, I'll rebase and repost the rest separately.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> All now queued up, thanks.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> This stuff broke i915 debugs. When I first load i915 no debug prints are
> > > > > >> produced. If I then go fiddle around in /sys/module/drm/parameters/debug
> > > > > >> the debug prints start to suddenly work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wait what? I always assumed the default behaviour would stay the same,
> > > > > > which is usually how we roll. It's a regression in my books. We've got a
> > > > > > CI farm that's not very helpful in terms of dmesg logging right now
> > > > > > because of this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BR,
> > > > > > Jani.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That doesn't sound good - so you are saying that prior to this change some
> > > > > of the drm debugs were default enabled. But now you have to manually enable
> > > > > them?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > -Jason
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Im just seeing this now.
> > > > Any new details ?
> > >
> > > No. We just disabled it as BROKEN for now. I was just today thinking
> > > about sending that patch out if no solutin is forthcoming soon since
> > > we need this working before 6.1 is released.
> > >
> > > Pretty sure you should see the problem immediately with any driver
> > > (at least if it's built as a module, didn't try builtin). Or at least
> > > can't think what would make i915 any more special.
> > >
> >
> > So, I should note -
> > 99% of my time & energy on this dyndbg + drm patchset
> > has been done using virtme,
> > so my world-view (and dev-hack-test env) has been smaller, simpler
> > maybe its been fatally simplistic.
> >
> > ive just rebuilt v6.0  (before the trouble)
> > and run it thru my virtual home box,
> > I didnt see any unfamiliar drm-debug output
> > that I might have inadvertently altered somehow
> >
> > I have some real HW I can put a reference kernel on,0
> > to look for the missing output, but its all gonna take some time,
> > esp to tighten up my dev-test-env
> >
> > in the meantime, there is:
> >
> > config DRM_USE_DYNAMIC_DEBUG
> > bool "use dynamic debug to implement drm.debug"
> > default y
> > depends on DRM
> > depends on DYNAMIC_DEBUG || DYNAMIC_DEBUG_CORE
> > depends on JUMP_LABEL
> > help
> >   Use dynamic-debug to avoid drm_debug_enabled() runtime overheads.
> >   Due to callsite counts in DRM drivers (~4k in amdgpu) and 56
> >   bytes per callsite, the .data costs can be substantial, and
> >   are therefore configurable.
> >
> > Does changing the default fix things for i915 dmesg ?
>
> I think we want to mark it BROKEN in addition to make sure no one

Ok, I get the distinction now.
youre spelling that
  depends on BROKEN

I have a notional explanation, and a conflating commit:

can you eliminate
git log -p ccc2b496324c13e917ef05f563626f4e7826bef1

as the cause ?



commit ccc2b496324c13e917ef05f563626f4e7826bef1
Author: Jim Cromie <jim.cromie@gmail.com>
Date:   Sun Sep 11 23:28:51 2022 -0600

    drm_print: prefer bare printk KERN_DEBUG on generic fn

    drm_print.c calls pr_debug() just once, from __drm_printfn_debug(),
    which is a generic/service fn.  The callsite is compile-time enabled
    by DEBUG in both DYNAMIC_DEBUG=y/n builds.

    For dyndbg builds, reverting this callsite back to bare printk is
    correcting a few anti-features:

    1- callsite is generic, serves multiple drm users.
       it is soft-wired on currently by #define DEBUG
       could accidentally: #> echo -p > /proc/dynamic_debug/control

    2- optional "decorations" by dyndbg are unhelpful/misleading here,
       they describe only the generic site, not end users

    IOW, 1,2 are unhelpful at best, and possibly confusing.


This shouldnt have turned off any debug of any kind
(drm.debug nor plain pr_debug)

but that former callsite no longer does the modname:func:line prefixing
that could have been in effect and relied upon (tested for) by your CI


I do need to clarify, I dont know exactly what debug/logging output
is missing such that CI is failing

related,
Ive added DEBUG to test-dynmamic-debug,
to prove the compile-time enablement of pr_debugs.
patch forthcoming, with a couple other fixes.





> enables it by accident. We already got one bug report where I had to
> ask the reporter to rebuild their kernel since this had gotten
> enabled and we didn't get any debugs from the driver probe.
>
> > or is the problem deeper ?
> >
> > theres also this Makefile addition, which I might have oversimplified
> >
> > CFLAGS-$(CONFIG_DRM_USE_DYNAMIC_DEBUG) += -DDYNAMIC_DEBUG_MODULE
>
> --
> Ville Syrjälä
> Intel

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-30 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-12  5:28 [PATCH v7 0/9] dyndbg: drm.debug adaptation Jim Cromie
2022-09-12  5:28 ` [PATCH v7 1/9] drm_print: condense enum drm_debug_category Jim Cromie
2022-09-12 10:17   ` Jani Nikula
2022-09-13 15:57     ` jim.cromie
2022-09-12  5:28 ` [PATCH v7 2/9] drm: POC drm on dyndbg - use in core, 2 helpers, 3 drivers Jim Cromie
2022-09-12 10:29   ` Jani Nikula
2022-09-12 21:11     ` jim.cromie
2022-09-12  5:28 ` [PATCH v7 3/9] drm_print: interpose drm_*dbg with forwarding macros Jim Cromie
2022-09-12  5:28 ` [PATCH v7 4/9] drm_print: wrap drm_*_dbg in dyndbg descriptor factory macro Jim Cromie
2022-09-12  5:28 ` [PATCH v7 5/9] drm-print.h: include dyndbg header Jim Cromie
2022-09-12  5:28 ` [PATCH v7 6/9] drm-print: add drm_dbg_driver to improve namespace symmetry Jim Cromie
2022-09-12  5:28 ` [PATCH v7 7/9] drm_print: optimize drm_debug_enabled for jump-label Jim Cromie
2022-09-12  5:28 ` [PATCH v7 8/9] drm_print: prefer bare printk KERN_DEBUG on generic fn Jim Cromie
2022-09-12  5:28 ` [PATCH v7 9/9] drm_print: add _ddebug descriptor to drm_*dbg prototypes Jim Cromie
2022-09-24 13:02 ` [PATCH v7 0/9] dyndbg: drm.debug adaptation Greg KH
2022-10-20 16:09   ` Ville Syrjälä
2022-10-21  9:18     ` [Intel-gfx] " Jani Nikula
2022-10-27 15:08       ` Jason Baron
2022-10-27 15:37         ` jim.cromie
2022-10-27 15:58           ` Ville Syrjälä
2022-10-27 19:55             ` jim.cromie
2022-10-27 20:09               ` Ville Syrjälä
2022-10-30 14:42                 ` jim.cromie [this message]
2022-10-31 13:07                   ` Ville Syrjälä
2022-10-31 22:11                     ` jim.cromie
2022-11-01  0:20                       ` Jason Baron
2022-11-01  8:52                         ` Ville Syrjälä
2022-11-01 13:09                           ` jim.cromie
2022-11-11 22:17 ` [PATCH 0/7] DYNAMIC_DEBUG fixups for rc Jim Cromie
2022-11-11 22:17   ` [PATCH 1/7] drm: mark drm.debug-on-dyndbg as BROKEN for now Jim Cromie
2022-11-14 12:20     ` [Intel-gfx] " Ville Syrjälä
2022-11-17  6:29     ` Greg KH
2022-11-11 22:17   ` [PATCH 2/7] drm_print: fixup improve stale comment Jim Cromie
2022-11-11 22:17   ` [PATCH 3/7] test-dyndbg: fixup CLASSMAP usage error Jim Cromie
2022-11-11 22:17   ` [PATCH 4/7] test-dyndbg: show that DEBUG enables prdbgs at compiletime Jim Cromie
2022-11-11 22:17   ` [PATCH 5/7] dyndbg: fix readback value on LEVEL_NAMES interfaces Jim Cromie
2022-11-11 22:17   ` [PATCH 6/7] dyndbg: clone DECLARE_DYNDBG_CLASSMAP to REFERENCE_DYNDBG_CLASSMAP Jim Cromie
2022-11-11 22:17   ` [PATCH 7/7] dyndbg: replace classmap list with a vector Jim Cromie
2022-11-17  6:29   ` [PATCH 0/7] DYNAMIC_DEBUG fixups for rc Greg KH

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