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From: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	Tim Murray <timmurray@google.com>,
	mingo@kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	esyr@redhat.com, christian@kellner.me, areber@redhat.com,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
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	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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	bernd.edlinger@hotmail.de,
	John Johansen <john.johansen@canonical.com>,
	laoar.shao@gmail.com, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
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	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm, oom_adj: don't loop through tasks in __set_oom_adj when not necessary
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 09:06:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJuCfpG06_KLhQyg9N84bRQOdvG27uAZ2oBDEQPR-OnZeNJd1w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpF_GhTy5SCjxqyqTFUrJNaw3UGJzCi=WSCXfqPAcbThYg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 8:28 AM Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 4:16 AM Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 08/20, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > >
> > > That said if we are going for a small change why not:
> > >
> > >       /*
> > >        * Make sure we will check other processes sharing the mm if this is
> > >        * not vfrok which wants its own oom_score_adj.
> > >        * pin the mm so it doesn't go away and get reused after task_unlock
> > >        */
> > >       if (!task->vfork_done) {
> > >               struct task_struct *p = find_lock_task_mm(task);
> > >
> > >               if (p) {
> > > -                     if (atomic_read(&p->mm->mm_users) > 1) {
> > > +                     if (atomic_read(&p->mm->mm_users) > p->signal->nr_threads) {
> >
> > In theory this needs a barrier to avoid the race with do_exit(). And I'd
> > suggest to use signal->live, I think signal->nr_threads should die...
> > Something like
> >
> >         bool probably_has_other_mm_users(tsk)
> >         {
> >                 return  atomic_read_acquire(&tsk->mm->mm_users) >
> >                         atomic_read(&tsk->signal->live);
> >         }
> >
> > The barrier implied by _acquire ensures that if we race with the exiting
> > task and see the result of exit_mm()->mmput(mm), then we must also see
> > the result of atomic_dec_and_test(signal->live).
> >
> > Either way, if we want to fix the race with clone(CLONE_VM) we need other
> > changes.
>
> The way I understand this condition in __set_oom_adj() sync logic is
> that we would be ok with false positives (when we loop unnecessarily)
> but we can't tolerate false negatives (when oom_score_adj gets out of
> sync). With the clone(CLONE_VM) race not addressed we are allowing
> false negatives and IMHO that's not acceptable because it creates a
> possibility for userspace to get an inconsistent picture. When
> developing the patch I did think about using (p->mm->mm_users >
> p->signal->nr_threads) condition and had to reject it due to that
> reason.
>

Actually, reviewing again and considering where list_add_tail_rcu is
happening, maybe the race with clone(CLONE_VM) does not introduce
false negatives. However a false negative I think will happen when a
task shares mm with another task and also has an additional thread.
Shared mm will increment mm_users without adding to signal->live and
the additional thread will advance signal->live without adding to
mm_users. As a result these increments will balance themselves and
(mm->mm_users > signal->live) condition will yield false negative.

> >
> > Oleg.
> >

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-21 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-20  0:20 [PATCH 1/1] mm, oom_adj: don't loop through tasks in __set_oom_adj when not necessary Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-08-20  5:56 ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-20  8:46 ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-20  9:09   ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-20 10:32     ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-20 11:14       ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-20 10:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-08-20 11:13   ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-20 11:29     ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-20 11:41       ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-08-20 11:47       ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-20 11:30     ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-20 11:42       ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-20 12:41         ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-20 13:43           ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-20 12:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-08-20 12:42   ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-20 12:45     ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-08-20 12:54       ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-08-20 13:26         ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-20 13:34           ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-20 13:48             ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-08-20 14:00               ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-20 14:15                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-20 14:26                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-08-20 14:34                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-20 14:18                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-08-20 14:49                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-08-20 15:06                     ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-20 15:56                     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-08-20 16:26                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-20 16:29                         ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-20 16:47                           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-08-21  4:39                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-08-21  7:17                           ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-21 11:15                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-08-21 15:28                             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-08-21 16:06                               ` Suren Baghdasaryan [this message]
2020-08-21 16:37                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-08-21 17:22                                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-08-21 16:33                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-08-21 17:59                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-08-21 18:53                                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-08-24 20:03                                     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-08-20 13:41           ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-08-20 14:04             ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-08-20 14:36               ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-08-20 15:06                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-08-20 14:43               ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-08-20 14:12             ` Michal Hocko

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