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From: Frank Mori Hess <fmh6jj@gmail.com>
To: Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@linaro.org>
Cc: Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	dmaengine@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	r.baldyga@hackerion.com, Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>,
	Linux Samsung SOC <linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Revert "dmaengine: pl330: add DMA_PAUSE feature"
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 20:56:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJz5OpdW7ZgX_K-+6H_mkHhzRf1_km8Usf306_HrnD7qCztdpw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180521091626.GB14654@vkoul-mobl>

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 5:16 AM, Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@linaro.org> wrote:
>>
>> I understand the residue can't be read after terminate, that's why
>> reading the residue is step 2 in pause/residue/terminate.  My question
>> was whether the entire sequence pause/residue/terminate taken as a
>> whole can or cannot lose data.  Saying that individual steps can or
>> can't lose data is not enough, context is required.  The key point is
>> whether pause flushes in-flight data to its destination or not.  If it
>> does, and our residue is accurate, the terminate cannot cause data
>> loss.  If pause doesn't flush, an additional step of flush_sync as
>> Lars suggested is required.  So pause/flush_sync/residue/terminate
>> would be the safe sequence that cannot lose data.
>
> I wouldn't use cannot, shouldn't would be better here as it depends on HW and
> where all data has been buffered and if it can be flushed or not.
>
> Have you checked if pl330 supports such flushing?

It does not, at least in the context of pausing.  The dma-330 DMAEND
instruction flushes in-flight data to its destination, and there are
read/write barrier instructions also, but none of them can be injected
on the fly into a running dma thread.  DMAKILL can be, but it discards
in-flight data.  Currently, if an 8250 serial driver uses the pl330
for rx dma, the result is possible data loss/corruption.  If there was
a stronger pause capability, call it "cmd_sync_pause" which guaranteed
flushing of in-flight data to its destination and accurate residue
reading when paused, then the 8250 serial driver could check for
"cmd_sync_pause" and reject dma drivers that do not have that
capability.  pl330.c would not advertise cmd_sync_pause.  I don't know
if other dmaengine hardware would be able to support cmd_sync_pause or
not, I'm mostly just familiar with the pl330.  The ep93xx_dma.c driver
for example has a m2p_hw_synchronize function which seems to do a
flush.

-- 
Frank

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-22  0:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-28 21:50 [PATCH] Revert "dmaengine: pl330: add DMA_PAUSE feature" Frank Mori Hess
2018-05-02  4:32 ` Vinod Koul
2018-05-02 14:37   ` Frank Mori Hess
2018-05-03  9:01     ` Vinod Koul
2018-05-03 16:35 ` Vinod Koul
     [not found] ` <CGME20180508090407eucas1p13713284c2d3f5aa5c66f8d136be683c1@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2018-05-08  9:04   ` Marek Szyprowski
2018-05-08 14:36     ` Frank Mori Hess
2018-05-09  6:59       ` Vinod Koul
2018-05-09 13:19       ` Marek Szyprowski
2018-05-09 17:48         ` Frank Mori Hess
2018-05-10  8:31           ` Marek Szyprowski
2018-05-10 16:04             ` Frank Mori Hess
2018-05-11 12:57               ` Marek Szyprowski
2018-05-11 15:57                 ` Frank Mori Hess
2018-05-15  6:21                 ` Vinod
2018-05-15 12:24                   ` Marek Szyprowski
2018-05-15 13:45                     ` Vinod
2018-05-15 15:50                   ` Frank Mori Hess
2018-05-17  4:19                     ` Vinod Koul
2018-05-17 16:20                       ` Frank Mori Hess
2018-05-17 17:22                         ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2018-05-18 19:01                           ` Frank Mori Hess
2018-05-18  4:03                         ` Vinod
2018-05-18  6:28                           ` Marek Szyprowski
2018-05-18  7:21                             ` Vinod
2018-05-29  5:17                               ` Marek Szyprowski
2018-05-29  7:09                                 ` Vinod
2018-05-18 18:56                           ` Frank Mori Hess
2018-05-21  9:16                             ` Vinod Koul
2018-05-22  0:56                               ` Frank Mori Hess [this message]
2018-05-22  3:37                                 ` Vinod Koul
2018-05-22 14:27                                   ` Frank Mori Hess
2018-05-23  5:39                                     ` Vinod

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