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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
To: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
Cc: "Viresh Kumar" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Jean-Philippe Brucker" <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	"Vincent Guittot" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"Bill Mills" <bill.mills@linaro.org>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <info@metux.net>,
	"Jie Deng" <jie.deng@intel.com>,
	DTML <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:DRM DRIVER FOR QEMU'S CIRRUS DEVICE"
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] dt-bindings: virtio: mmio: Add support for device subnode
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 23:07:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a2mS3GoW9MXdDNK7-EbnRH-9Kn4_k_TgnGSCycSez8Xow@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_JsqKLjFx9AOcMiyxdQvDU7V8Sak8YPyrJm2TuSE-TTqvREw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 5:43 PM Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 2:34 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 9:35 PM Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > What we have with virtio-iommu is two special hacks:
> >  - on virtio-mmio, a node with 'compatible="virtio,mmio"' may optionally
> >    have an '#iommu-cells=<1>', in which case we assume it's an iommu.
> >  - for virtio-pci, the node has the standard PCI 'reg' property but a special
> >    'compatible="virtio,pci-iommu"' property that I think is different from any
> >    other PCI node.
>
> How is that different? PCI device can be a VID/PID compatible or
> omitted, but can also be a "typical" compatible string.

Ok, my mistake then, I though the VID/PID compatible was mandated

> > I think for other virtio devices, we should come up with a way to define a
> > binding per device (i2c, gpio, ...) without needing to cram this into the
> > "virtio,mmio" binding or coming up with special compatible strings for
> > PCI devices.
> >
> > Having a child device for the virtio device type gives a better separation
> > here, since it lets you have two nodes with 'compatible' strings that each
> > make sense for their respective parent buses: The parent is either a PCI
> > device or a plain mmio based device, and the child is a virtio device with
> > its own namespace for compatible values. As you say, the downside is
> > that this requires an extra node that is redundant because there is always
> > a 1:1 relation with its parent.
> >
> > Having a combined node gets rid of the redundancy but if we want to
> > identify the device for the purpose of defining a custom binding, it would have
> > to have two compatible strings, something like
> >
> > compatible="virtio,mmio", "virtio,device34";
>
> The order seems backwards here. 'virtio,device34' is more specific.
> Though I guess the meanings are orthogonal.

Right, one defines the transport and the other defines the device behind
the transport.

> > for a virtio-mmio device of device-id 34 (i2c), or a PCI device with
> >
> > compatible="pci1af4,1041", "virtio,device34";
>
> But this seems the right order. Though does '1041' have any specific
> meaning or device IDs are just dynamically assigned? It seems to be
> the latter from my brief scan of the code.

It's the assigned PCI vendor/device pair for virtio, all virtio-pci devices
have to be "pci1af4,1041", just like all virtio-mmio devices are
"virtio,mmio".

> > which also does not quite feel right.
>
> I guess it comes down to is 'virtio,mmio' providing a bus or is it
> just a device? I guess a bus (so 2 nodes) does make sense here.
> 'virtio,mmio' defines how you access/discover the virtio queues (the
> bus) and the functional device (i2c, gpio, iommu, etc.) is accessed
> via the virtio queues.

It's not really a bus since there is only ever one device behind it.
A better analogy would be your 'serdev' framework: You could
have a 8250 or a pl011 uart, and behind that have a mouse, GPS
receiver or bluetooth dongle.

In Documentation/devicetree/bindings/serial/serial.yaml, you also
have two nodes for a single device, so we could follow that
example.

        Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-14 21:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-13 10:50 [PATCH 0/5] virtio: Parse virtio-device nodes from DT Viresh Kumar
2021-07-13 10:50 ` [PATCH 1/5] dt-bindings: virtio: mmio: Add support for device subnode Viresh Kumar
2021-07-13 12:32   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-14  2:28     ` Viresh Kumar
2021-07-13 14:43   ` Rob Herring
2021-07-13 15:19     ` Viresh Kumar
2021-07-13 19:34       ` Rob Herring
2021-07-13 20:34         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-14  2:26           ` Viresh Kumar
2021-07-14 11:40             ` Viresh Kumar
2021-07-14  8:20           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2021-07-14 15:43           ` Rob Herring
2021-07-14 21:07             ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2021-07-19 10:33               ` Viresh Kumar
2021-07-19 12:04                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-14  2:19         ` Viresh Kumar
2021-07-13 10:50 ` [PATCH 2/5] virtio_mmio: Bind virtio device to device-tree node Viresh Kumar
2021-07-13 12:26   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-14  3:11     ` Viresh Kumar
2021-07-13 10:50 ` [PATCH 3/5] dt-bindings: i2c: Add bindings for i2c-virtio Viresh Kumar
2021-07-13 14:03   ` Rob Herring
2021-07-13 10:50 ` [PATCH 4/5] i2c: virtio: Update i2c-adapter's of_node Viresh Kumar
2021-07-13 10:50 ` [PATCH 5/5] dt-bindings: gpio: Add bindings for gpio-virtio Viresh Kumar
2021-07-13 14:03   ` Rob Herring
2021-07-13 14:46   ` Rob Herring

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