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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Greentime Hu <green.hu@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 16/36] nds32: DMA mapping API
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 12:36:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a30W1ph-6Owuf9yZF-bKg_bx6dJKCtiF_aRAYu9NVO3DQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEbi=3d46tXacnnU+RJGMw+KR1O=NaVjO+NW3cxUjAN==V51iw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Greentime Hu <green.hu@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, Arnd:
>
> 2018-01-23 16:23 GMT+08:00 Greentime Hu <green.hu@gmail.com>:
>> Hi, Arnd:
>>
>> 2018-01-18 18:26 GMT+08:00 Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>:
>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 6:53 AM, Greentime Hu <green.hu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> From: Greentime Hu <greentime@andestech.com>
>>>>
>>>> This patch adds support for the DMA mapping API. It uses dma_map_ops for
>>>> flexibility.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Vincent Chen <vincentc@andestech.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Greentime Hu <greentime@andestech.com>
>>>
>>> I'm still unhappy about the way the cache flushes are done here as discussed
>>> before. It's not a show-stopped, but no Ack from me.
>>
>> How about this implementation?

> I am not sure if I understand it correctly.
> I list all the combinations.
>
> RAM to DEVICE
>     before DMA => writeback cache
>     after DMA => nop
>
> DEVICE to RAM
>     before DMA => nop
>     after DMA => invalidate cache
>
> static void consistent_sync(void *vaddr, size_t size, int direction, int master)
> {
>         unsigned long start = (unsigned long)vaddr;
>         unsigned long end = start + size;
>
>         if (master == FOR_CPU) {
>                 switch (direction) {
>                 case DMA_TO_DEVICE:
>                         break;
>                 case DMA_FROM_DEVICE:
>                 case DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL:
>                         cpu_dma_inval_range(start, end);
>                         break;
>                 default:
>                         BUG();
>                 }
>         } else {
>                 /* FOR_DEVICE */
>                 switch (direction) {
>                 case DMA_FROM_DEVICE:
>                         break;
>                 case DMA_TO_DEVICE:
>                 case DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL:
>                         cpu_dma_wb_range(start, end);
>                         break;
>                 default:
>                         BUG();
>                 }
>         }
> }

That looks reasonable enough, but it does depend on a number of factors,
and the dma-mapping.h implementation is not just about cache flushes.

As I don't know the microarchitecture, can you answer these questions:

- are caches always write-back, or could they be write-through?
- can the cache be shared with another CPU or a device?
- if the cache is shared, is it always coherent, never coherent, or
either of them?
- could the same memory be visible at different physical addresses
  and have conflicting caches?
- is the CPU physical address always the same as the address visible to the
  device?
- are there devices that can only see a subset of the physical memory?
- can there be an IOMMU?
- are there write-buffers in the CPU that might need to get flushed before
  flushing the cache?
- could cache lines be loaded speculatively or with read-ahead while
  a buffer is owned by a device?

        Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-24 11:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-15  5:53 [PATCH v6 00/36] Andes(nds32) Linux Kernel Port Greentime Hu
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 01/36] asm-generic/io.h: move ioremap_nocache/ioremap_uc/ioremap_wc/ioremap_wt out of ifndef CONFIG_MMU Greentime Hu
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 02/36] openrisc: add ioremap_nocache declaration before include asm-generic/io.h and sync ioremap prototype with it Greentime Hu
2018-01-15 13:07   ` Stafford Horne
2018-01-15 13:28     ` Greentime Hu
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 03/36] sparc: io: To use the define of ioremap_[nocache|wc|wb] in asm-generic/io.h Greentime Hu
2018-01-18  9:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-19 12:50     ` Greentime Hu
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 04/36] earlycon: add reg-offset to physical address before mapping Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:00   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 05/36] nds32: Assembly macros and definitions Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:01   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 06/36] nds32: Kernel booting and initialization Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:11   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-19 16:34     ` Greentime Hu
2018-01-19 16:41       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-22  9:49         ` Greentime Hu
2018-01-22  9:53           ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 07/36] nds32: Exception handling Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:14   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-24 10:53     ` Vincent Chen
2018-01-24 11:09       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-24 11:10         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-30 10:01           ` Vincent Chen
2018-01-30 13:33             ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-30 14:49               ` Greentime Hu
2018-01-30 15:27                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 08/36] nds32: MMU definitions Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:14   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 09/36] nds32: MMU initialization Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 10/36] nds32: MMU fault handling and page table management Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 11/36] nds32: Cache and TLB routines Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 12/36] nds32: Process management Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:22   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 13/36] nds32: IRQ handling Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:22   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 14/36] nds32: Atomic operations Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:23   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 15/36] nds32: Device specific operations Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:25   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 16/36] nds32: DMA mapping API Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:26   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-23  8:23     ` Greentime Hu
2018-01-23 11:52       ` Greentime Hu
2018-01-24 11:36         ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2018-01-25  3:45           ` Greentime Hu
2018-01-25 10:42             ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-25 13:48               ` Greentime Hu
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 17/36] nds32: ELF definitions Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:27   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 18/36] nds32: System calls handling Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:27   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 19/36] nds32: VDSO support Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:28   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-06  7:41     ` Vincent Chen
2018-02-06  8:48       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 20/36] nds32: Signal handling support Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:30   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-24  0:56     ` Vincent Chen
2018-01-24 11:13       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-06  6:39         ` Vincent Chen
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 21/36] nds32: Library functions Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:31   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 22/36] nds32: Debugging support Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:37   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-23  7:28     ` Vincent Chen
2018-01-23  8:21       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 23/36] nds32: L2 cache support Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:37   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 24/36] nds32: Loadable modules Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:41   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-19 14:26     ` Greentime Hu
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 25/36] nds32: Generic timers support Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:41   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 26/36] nds32: Device tree support Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:43   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 27/36] nds32: Miscellaneous header files Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 28/36] nds32: defconfig Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:44   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 29/36] nds32: Build infrastructure Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 11:00   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-22 15:20     ` Greentime Hu
2018-01-22 15:38       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-22 16:00         ` Greentime Hu
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 30/36] MAINTAINERS: Add nds32 Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:45   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 31/36] dt-bindings: nds32 CPU Bindings Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 11:02   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-19 14:32     ` Greentime Hu
2018-01-19 14:52       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-19 15:18         ` Greentime Hu
2018-01-19 15:29           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-01-19 15:35             ` Greentime Hu
2018-01-19 15:37               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-01-22  9:53                 ` Greentime Hu
2018-01-22 11:15                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-22 13:55                     ` Greentime Hu
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 32/36] dt-bindings: nds32 L2 cache controller Bindings Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:45   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 33/36] dt-bindings: nds32 SoC Bindings Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 11:03   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 34/36] dt-bindings: interrupt-controller: Andestech Internal Vector Interrupt Controller Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 10:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 35/36] irqchip: Andestech Internal Vector Interrupt Controller driver Greentime Hu
2018-01-15  5:53 ` [PATCH v6 36/36] net: faraday add nds32 support Greentime Hu
2018-01-18 11:02   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-01-18  9:49 ` [PATCH v6 00/36] Andes(nds32) Linux Kernel Port Arnd Bergmann

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