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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Cc: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Luc Van Oostenryck <luc.vanoostenryck@gmail.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/8] compiler/gcc: Emit build-time warning for GCC prior to version 4.8
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 11:49:03 +0100
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a3JfUjm88CLqkvAmCoEA1FsmQ33sfHGK4=Y5iuhWxet5Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200114213914.198223-1-ndesaulniers@google.com>

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 10:39 PM Nick Desaulniers
<ndesaulniers@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 06:35:02PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 5:56 PM Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Prior to version 4.8, GCC may miscompile READ_ONCE() by erroneously
> > > discarding the 'volatile' qualifier:
> > >
> > > https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=58145
> > >
> > > We've been working around this using some nasty hacks which make
> > > READ_ONCE() both horribly complicated and also prevent us from enforcing
> > > that it is only used on scalar types. Since GCC 4.8 is pretty old for
> > > kernel builds now, emit a warning if we detect it during the build.
> >
> > No objection to recommending gcc-4.8, but I think this should either
> > just warn once during the kernel build instead of for every file, or
> > it should become a hard requirement.
>
> Yeah, hard requirement sounds good to me. Arnd, do you have stats on which
> distros have which versions of GCC (IIRC, you had some stats for the GCC 4.6
> upgrade)? This allows us to clean up more cruft in the kernel (grep for
> GCC_VERSION).

This is the list that Kirill and I came up with in the thread I linked to

> - Debian 8.0 Jessie has 4.9.2, EOL 2020-05
> - Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Trusty has 4.8.2, EOL 2019-04;
> - Fedora 21 has 4.9.2, EOL 2015-12;
> - OpenSUSE 42.3 has 4.8.5, EOL 2019-06;
> - RHEL 7.7 has 4.8.5, EOL 2024-06;
> - RHEL 6.9 has 4.4.7, EOL 2020-11;
> - SUSE 12-SP4 has 4.8.6, EOL 2024, extended support 2027
> - Oracle 7.6 has 4.8.5, EOL ?;
> - Slackware 14.1 (no EOL announced): gcc-4.8

In an older thread about moving to gcc-4.3 or 4.6 as a minimum,
this were the even older distros:

> - RHEL 5.x has 4.1; extended support EOL 2020
> - SLES11 had gcc-4.3; extended support EOL 2022
> - Debian  Wheezy (oldoldstable) had gcc-4.6, EOL 2018.
> - OpenWRT 12.07 Attitude Adjustment had gcc-4.6
>    and is still used with devices that have only 4MB flash / 32 MB RAM

      Arnd

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Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-10 16:56 [RFC PATCH 0/8] Rework READ_ONCE() to improve codegen Will Deacon
2020-01-10 16:56 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] compiler/gcc: Emit build-time warning for GCC prior to version 4.8 Will Deacon
2020-01-10 17:35   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-01-10 17:53     ` Joe Perches
2020-01-13 14:39       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-01-13 15:35         ` Masahiro Yamada
2020-01-13 14:27     ` Will Deacon
2020-01-14 21:39     ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-01-15 10:35       ` David Laight
2020-01-15 10:49       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2020-01-10 16:56 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] netfilter: Avoid assigning 'const' pointer to non-const pointer Will Deacon
2020-01-10 16:56 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] fault_inject: Don't rely on "return value" from WRITE_ONCE() Will Deacon
2020-01-10 16:56 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] READ_ONCE: Simplify implementations of {READ,WRITE}_ONCE() Will Deacon
2020-01-10 16:56 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] READ_ONCE: Enforce atomicity for {READ,WRITE}_ONCE() memory accesses Will Deacon
2020-01-10 19:24   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-01-13 16:16     ` Will Deacon
2020-01-10 16:56 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] READ_ONCE: Drop pointer qualifiers when reading from scalar types Will Deacon
2020-01-10 18:54   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-01-13 14:59     ` Will Deacon
2020-01-13 17:42       ` Luc Van Oostenryck
2020-01-13 19:31       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-01-10 16:56 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] locking/barriers: Use '__unqual_scalar_typeof' for load-acquire macros Will Deacon
2020-01-10 19:42   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-01-13 15:01     ` Will Deacon
2020-01-10 16:56 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] arm64: barrier: Use '__unqual_scalar_typeof' for acquire/release macros Will Deacon
2020-01-10 17:45   ` Mark Rutland
2020-01-10 17:58 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] Rework READ_ONCE() to improve codegen Arnd Bergmann
2020-01-10 19:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-01-10 20:14   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-01-13 13:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-01-13 11:20 ` David Laight
2020-01-13 12:40 ` Christian Borntraeger

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