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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>,
	Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com>,
	"kongxinwei (A)" <kong.kongxinwei@hisilicon.com>,
	"Chenfeng (puck)" <puck.chen@hisilicon.com>,
	"airlied@linux.ie" <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Linuxarm <linuxarm@huawei.com>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dbueso@suse.de
Subject: Re: Warnings in DRM code when removing/unbinding a driver
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 13:42:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKMK7uHEL3WzSHDM3XdLwOBtQUtygK6x-md8W1MVsAryDDgFog@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191219113151.sytkoi3m7rrxzps2@sirius.home.kraxel.org>

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 12:32 PM Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>   Hi,
>
> > >   Like I said, for most drivers
> > > > you can pretty much assume that their unload sequence has been broken
> > > > since forever. It's not often tested, and especially the hotunbind
> > > > from a device (as opposed to driver unload) stuff wasn't even possible
> > > > to get right until just recently.
> > >
> > > Do you think it's worth trying to fix this for 5.5 and earlier, or just
> > > switch to the device-managed interface for 5.6 and forget about 5.5 and
> > > earlier?
> >
> > I suspect it's going to be quite some trickery to fix this properly
> > and everywhere, even for just one driver. Lots of drm drivers
> > unfortunately use anti-patterns with wrong lifetimes (e.g. you can't
> > use devm_kmalloc for anything that hangs of a drm_device, like
> > plane/crtc/connector). Except when it's for a real hotunpluggable
> > device (usb) we've never bothered backporting these fixes. Too much
> > broken stuff unfortunately.
>
> While being at it:  How would a driver cleanup properly cleanup gem
> objects created by userspace on hotunbind?  Specifically a gem object
> pinned to vram?

Two things:
- the mmap needs to be torn down and replaced by something which will
sigbus. Probably should have that as a helper (plus vram fault code
should use drm_dev_enter/exit to plug races).
- otherwise all datastructures need to be properly refcounted.
drm_device now is (if your driver isn't broken), but any dma_fence or
dma_buf we create and export has an independent lifetime, and
currently the refcounting for is still wobbly I think.

So some work to do, both in helpers/core code and in drivers to get updated.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
+41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch

  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-19 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-16 17:23 Warnings in DRM code when removing/unbinding a driver John Garry
2019-12-17  9:20 ` John Garry
2019-12-17 13:24   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-12-17 16:34 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2019-12-17 17:27   ` John Garry
2019-12-18 18:08     ` John Garry
2019-12-19  9:54       ` Daniel Vetter
2019-12-19 10:03         ` John Garry
2019-12-19 10:10           ` Daniel Vetter
2019-12-19 11:31             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-12-19 12:42               ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2019-12-23  9:00                 ` SIGBUS on device disappearance (Re: Warnings in DRM code when removing/unbinding a driver) Pekka Paalanen
2020-01-07 15:42                   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-01-10 10:49 ` Warnings in DRM code when removing/unbinding a driver Thomas Zimmermann
2020-01-10 12:54   ` John Garry
2020-01-13  8:05     ` Thomas Zimmermann

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