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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"moderated list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK" 
	<linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"open list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK" 
	<linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Linaro-mm-sig] Changing vma->vm_file in dma_buf_mmap()
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 08:23:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKMK7uHJNRzCJfWVSmMrLmGXE0qo+OCXiMd+zPTOkeG2pnVrmQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aa953b09-53b1-104b-dc4b-156ad8a75e62@gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 5:31 PM Christian König
<ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Am 16.09.20 um 17:24 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 4:14 PM Christian König
> > <christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
> >> Am 16.09.20 um 16:07 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
> >>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 11:53:59AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> But within the driver, we generally need thousands of these, and that
> >>>> tends to bring fd exhaustion problems with it. That's why all the private
> >>>> buffer objects which aren't shared with other process or other drivers are
> >>>> handles only valid for a specific fd instance of the drm chardev (each
> >>>> open gets their own namespace), and only for ioctls done on that chardev.
> >>>> And for mmap we assign fake (but unique across all open fd on it) offsets
> >>>> within the overall chardev. Hence all the pgoff mangling and re-mangling.
> >>> Are they still unique struct files? Just without a fdno?
> >> Yes, exactly.
> > Not entirely, since dma-buf happened after drm chardev, so for that
> > historical reason the underlying struct file is shared, since it's the
> > drm chardev. But since that's per-device we don't have a problem in
> > practice with different vm_ops, since those are also per-device. But
> > yeah we could fish out some entirely hidden per-object struct file if
> > that's required for some mm internal reasons.
>
> Hui? Ok that is just the handling in i915, isn't it?
>
> As far as I know we create an unique struct file for each DMA-buf.

Yes dma-buf, but that gets forwarded to the original drm chardev which
originally exported the buffer. It's only there where the forwarding
chain stops. The other thing is that iirc we have a singleton
anon_inode behind all the dma-buf, so they'd share all the same
address_space and so would all alias for unmap_mapping_range (I think
at least).
-Daniel

>
> Regards,
> Christian.
>
>
> > -Daniel
> >
> >>>> Hence why we'd like to be able to forward aliasing mappings and adjust the
> >>>> file and pgoff, while hopefully everything keeps working. I thought this
> >>>> would work, but Christian noticed it doesn't really.
> >>> It seems reasonable to me that the dma buf should be the owner of the
> >>> VMA, otherwise like you say, there is a big mess attaching the custom
> >>> vma ops and what not to the proper dma buf.
> >>>
> >>> I don't see anything obviously against this in mmap_region() - why did
> >>> Chritian notice it doesn't really work?
> >> To clarify I think this might work.
> >>
> >> I just had the same "Is that legal?", "What about security?", etc..
> >> questions you raised as well.
> >>
> >> It seems like a source of trouble so I thought better ask somebody more
> >> familiar with that.
> >>
> >> Christian.
> >>
> >>> Jason
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> dri-devel mailing list
> >> dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> >> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
> >
> >
>


-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-17  6:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-14 13:29 Changing vma->vm_file in dma_buf_mmap() Christian König
2020-09-14 13:29 ` [PATCH 1/2] drm/shmem-helpers: revert "Redirect mmap for imported dma-buf" Christian König
2020-09-15 10:39   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-15 11:03     ` Christian König
2020-09-15 11:07       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-14 13:29 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: introduce vma_set_file function Christian König
2020-09-15  9:19   ` kernel test robot
2020-09-15 11:57   ` kernel test robot
2020-09-14 13:30 ` Changing vma->vm_file in dma_buf_mmap() Christian König
2020-09-14 14:06   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 18:26     ` Christian König
2020-09-16  9:53       ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]         ` <fc8f2af7-9fc2-cb55-3065-75a4060b7c82@amd.com>
     [not found]           ` <b621db68-30b9-cc3f-c2c0-237a7fe4db09@amd.com>
2020-09-16 12:41             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 14:07         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 14:14           ` Christian König
2020-09-16 15:24             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 15:31               ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Christian König
2020-09-17  6:23                 ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2020-09-17  7:11                   ` Christian König
2020-09-17  8:09                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17 11:31                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 12:03                         ` Christian König
2020-09-17 12:18                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 12:24                             ` Christian König
2020-09-17 12:26                               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17 14:35                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 14:54                                 ` Christian König
2020-09-17 15:24                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 15:37                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17 16:06                                       ` Christian König
2020-09-17 16:39                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 17:23                                           ` Daniel Vetter

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