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From: Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
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	"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add /proc/pid_generation
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 12:38:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKOZueuCYOsaHZzoz5nNPr8Jb-fEiHTR4MektaJx8vuUXcrKCQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181121203150.GK3065@bombadil.infradead.org>

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 12:31 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 12:14:44PM -0800, Daniel Colascione wrote:
> > This change adds a per-pid-namespace 64-bit generation number,
> > incremented on PID rollover, and exposes it via a new proc file
> > /proc/pid_generation. By examining this file before and after /proc
> > enumeration, user code can detect the potential reuse of a PID and
> > restart the task enumeration process, repeating until it gets a
> > coherent snapshot.
> >
> > PID rollover ought to be rare, so in practice, scan repetitions will
> > be rare.
>
> Then why does it need to be 64-bit?

[Resending because of accidental HTML. I really need to switch to a
better email client.]

Because 64 bits is enough for anyone. :-) A u64 is big enough that
we'll never observe an overflow on a running system, and PID
namespaces are rare enough that we won't miss the four extra bytes we
use by upgrading from a u32.  And after reading about some security
problems caused by too-clever handling of 32-bit rollover, I'd rather
the code be obviously correct than save a trivial amount of space.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-21 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-21 20:14 [PATCH] Add /proc/pid_generation Daniel Colascione
2018-11-21 20:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-11-21 20:38   ` Daniel Colascione [this message]
2018-11-22  2:06     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-11-25 22:55       ` Pavel Machek
2018-11-21 20:54 ` [PATCH v2] Add /proc/pid_gen Daniel Colascione
2018-11-21 22:12   ` Andrew Morton
2018-11-21 22:40     ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-21 22:48       ` Jann Horn
2018-11-21 22:52         ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-21 22:50       ` Andrew Morton
2018-11-21 23:21         ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-21 23:35           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-22  0:21             ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-22 13:58             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2018-11-22  0:22           ` Andrew Morton
2018-11-22  0:28             ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-22  0:30               ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-22 15:27                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-11-22  0:57               ` Andrew Morton
2018-11-22  1:08                 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-22  1:29                   ` Andrew Morton
2018-11-22  2:35                     ` Tim Murray
2018-11-22  5:30                       ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-22 11:19 ` [PATCH] Add /proc/pid_generation Kevin Easton
2018-11-23 11:14   ` David Laight
2018-11-25 23:00     ` Pavel Machek

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