From: Pedro Falcato <pedro.falcato@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] do_open(): Fix O_DIRECTORY | O_CREAT behavior
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 19:27:14 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKbZUD2Y2F=3+jf+0dRvenNKk=SsYPxKwLuPty_5-ppBPsoUeQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjifBVf3ub0WWBXYg7JAao6V8coCdouseaButR0gi5xmg@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 5:14 PM Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 4:52 AM Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > So before we continue down that road should we maybe treat this as a
> > chance to fix the old bug? Because this behavior of returning -ENOTDIR
> > has existed ever since v5.7 now. Since that time we had three LTS
> > releases all returning ENOTDIR even if the file was created.
>
> Ack.
>
> I think considering that the return value has been broken for so long,
> I think we can pretty much assume that there are no actual users of
> it, and we might as well clean up the semantics properly.
>
> Willing to send that patch in and we'll get it tested in the crucible
> of the real world?
That sounds good to me, I can do that. What kind of new semantics are
we talking about here?
I originally found this when testing every kind of possibly-odd edge
case in path
walking/open(2). From the systems I've tested on (not too diverse, basically
NetBSD, FreeBSD, Linux 6.2.2, and now, when looking for a regression,
a variety of kernels since 2009), 4 behaviors occurred:
1) Pre v5.7 Linux did the open-dir-if-exists-else-create-regular-file
we all know and """love""".
2) Post 5.7, we started returning this buggy -ENOTDIR error, even when
successfully creating a file.
3) NetBSD just straight up returns EINVAL on open(O_DIRECTORY | O_CREAT)
4) FreeBSD's open(O_CREAT | O_DIRECTORY) succeeds if the file exists
and is a directory. Fails with -ENOENT if it falls onto the "O_CREAT"
path (i.e it doesn't try to create the file at all, just ENOENT's;
this changed relatively recently, in 2015)
Note that all of these behaviors are allowed by POSIX (in fact, I
would not call the old Linux behavior a *bug*, just really odd
semantics).
So, again, what kind of behavior change do we want here? IMO, the best
and least destructive would probably
be to emulate FreeBSD behavior here. I don't think open(O_DIRECTORY |
O_CREAT) returning -ENOTDIR
if it doesn't exist (as Christian suggested, I think?) makes any sort
of sense here.
Just my 2c.
--
Pedro
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-20 19:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-20 7:14 [PATCH] do_open(): Fix O_DIRECTORY | O_CREAT behavior Pedro Falcato
2023-03-20 11:51 ` Christian Brauner
2023-03-20 17:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-20 19:27 ` Pedro Falcato [this message]
2023-03-20 20:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-20 22:10 ` Aleksa Sarai
2023-03-21 14:24 ` Christian Brauner
2023-03-21 16:17 ` Christian Brauner
2023-03-21 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-21 20:16 ` Christian Brauner
2023-03-21 21:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-22 10:17 ` Christian Brauner
2023-03-22 17:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-27 20:13 ` Pedro Falcato
2023-03-28 8:12 ` Christian Brauner
2023-03-28 2:15 ` Josh Triplett
2023-03-28 3:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-28 4:00 ` Josh Triplett
2023-03-28 7:57 ` Christian Brauner
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