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From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
To: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 05/10] sched: make scale_rt invariant with frequency
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:48:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKfTPtAG1qtqSgG3Ek7CeKcvm2=KXbMdb7TgrVcEFivwGeDOGg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141124170502.GK23177@e105550-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On 24 November 2014 at 18:05, Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 02:24:00PM +0000, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>> On 21 November 2014 at 13:35, Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 04:54:42PM +0000, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> >> The average running time of RT tasks is used to estimate the remaining compute
>> >> @@ -5801,19 +5801,12 @@ static unsigned long scale_rt_capacity(int cpu)
>> >>
>> >>       total = sched_avg_period() + delta;
>> >>
>> >> -     if (unlikely(total < avg)) {
>> >> -             /* Ensures that capacity won't end up being negative */
>> >> -             available = 0;
>> >> -     } else {
>> >> -             available = total - avg;
>> >> -     }
>> >> +     used = div_u64(avg, total);
>> >
>> > I haven't looked through all the details of the rt avg tracking, but if
>> > 'used' is in the range [0..SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE], I believe it should
>> > work. Is it guaranteed that total > 0 so we don't get division by zero?
>>
>> static inline u64 sched_avg_period(void)
>> {
>> return (u64)sysctl_sched_time_avg * NSEC_PER_MSEC / 2;
>> }
>>
>
> I see.
>
>> >
>> > It does get a slightly more complicated if we want to figure out the
>> > available capacity at the current frequency (current < max) later. Say,
>> > rt eats 25% of the compute capacity, but the current frequency is only
>> > 50%. In that case get:
>> >
>> > curr_avail_capacity = (arch_scale_cpu_capacity() *
>> >   (arch_scale_freq_capacity() - (SCHED_SCALE_CAPACITY - scale_rt_capacity())))
>> >   >> SCHED_CAPACITY_SHIFT
>>
>> You don't have to be so complicated but simply need to do:
>> curr_avail_capacity for CFS = (capacity_of(CPU) *
>> arch_scale_freq_capacity())  >> SCHED_CAPACITY_SHIFT
>>
>> capacity_of(CPU) = 600 is the max available capacity for CFS tasks
>> once we have removed the 25% of capacity that is used by RT tasks
>> arch_scale_freq_capacity = 512 because we currently run at 50% of max freq
>>
>> so curr_avail_capacity for CFS = 300
>
> I don't think that is correct. It is at least not what I had in mind.
>
> capacity_orig_of(cpu) = 800, we run at 50% frequency which means:
>
> curr_capacity = capacity_orig_of(cpu) * arch_scale_freq_capacity()
>                   >> SCHED_CAPACITY_SHIFT
>               = 400
>
> So the total capacity at the current frequency (50%) is 400, without
> considering RT. scale_rt_capacity() is frequency invariant, so it takes
> away capacity_orig_of(cpu) - capacity_of(cpu) = 200 worth of capacity
> for RT.  We need to subtract that from the current capacity to get the
> available capacity at the current frequency.
>
> curr_available_capacity = curr_capacity - (capacity_orig_of(cpu) -
> capacity_of(cpu)) = 200

you're right, this one looks good to me too

>
> In other words, 800 is the max capacity, we are currently running at 50%
> frequency, which gives us 400. RT takes away 25% of 800
> (frequency-invariant) from the 400, which leaves us with 200 left for
> CFS tasks at the current frequency.
>
> In your calculations you subtract the RT load before computing the
> current capacity using arch_scale_freq_capacity(), where I think it
> should be done after. You find the amount spare capacity you would have
> at the maximum frequency when RT has been subtracted and then scale the
> result by frequency which means indirectly scaling the RT load
> contribution again (the rt avg has already been scaled). So instead of
> taking away 200 of the 400 (current capacity @ 50% frequency), it only
> takes away 100 which isn't right.
>
> scale_rt_capacity() is frequency-invariant, so if the RT load is 50% and
> the frequency is 50%, there are no spare cycles left.
> curr_avail_capacity should be 0. But using your expression above you
> would get capacity_of(cpu) = 400 after removing RT,
> arch_scale_freq_capacity = 512 and you get 200. I don't think that is
> right.
>
> Morten
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-25 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-03 16:54 [PATCH v9 00/10] sched: consolidation of CPU capacity and usage Vincent Guittot
2014-11-03 16:54 ` [PATCH v9 01/10] sched: add utilization_avg_contrib Vincent Guittot
2014-11-21 12:34   ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-11-24 14:04     ` Vincent Guittot
2014-11-24 17:34       ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-11-03 16:54 ` [PATCH v9 02/10] sched: Track group sched_entity usage contributions Vincent Guittot
2014-11-21 12:35   ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-11-24 14:04     ` Vincent Guittot
2014-11-24 15:39       ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-11-03 16:54 ` [PATCH v9 03/10] sched: remove frequency scaling from cpu_capacity Vincent Guittot
2014-11-21 12:35   ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-11-03 16:54 ` [PATCH v9 04/10] sched: Make sched entity usage tracking scale-invariant Vincent Guittot
2014-11-21 12:35   ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-11-26 16:05     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2014-11-03 16:54 ` [PATCH v9 05/10] sched: make scale_rt invariant with frequency Vincent Guittot
2014-11-21 12:35   ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-11-24 14:24     ` Vincent Guittot
2014-11-24 17:05       ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-11-25 13:48         ` Vincent Guittot [this message]
2014-11-26 11:57           ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-11-25  2:24   ` Wanpeng Li
2014-11-25 13:52     ` Vincent Guittot
2014-11-26  5:18       ` Wanpeng Li
2014-11-26  8:27         ` Vincent Guittot
2014-11-03 16:54 ` [PATCH v9 06/10] sched: add per rq cpu_capacity_orig Vincent Guittot
2014-11-03 16:54 ` [PATCH v9 07/10] sched: get CPU's usage statistic Vincent Guittot
2014-11-21 12:36   ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-11-03 16:54 ` [PATCH v9 08/10] sched: replace capacity_factor by usage Vincent Guittot
2014-11-19 15:15   ` pang.xunlei
2014-11-19 17:30     ` Vincent Guittot
2014-11-21 12:37   ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-11-24 14:41     ` Vincent Guittot
2014-11-24 17:16       ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-11-03 16:54 ` [PATCH v9 09/10] sched: add SD_PREFER_SIBLING for SMT level Vincent Guittot
2014-11-03 16:54 ` [PATCH v9 10/10] sched: move cfs task on a CPU with higher capacity Vincent Guittot
2014-11-21 12:37   ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-11-24 14:45     ` Vincent Guittot
2014-11-24 17:30       ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-11-21 12:34 ` [PATCH v9 00/10] sched: consolidation of CPU capacity and usage Morten Rasmussen

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