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From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Jiang Biao <benbjiang@gmail.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jiang Biao <benbjiang@tencent.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: avoid vruntime compensation for SCHED_IDLE task
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 15:15:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKfTPtBuZOb9-W5sS=DqxcuMFa8Lw=7XqMJ_YrXEgd5zvufYjA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200820125829.GT2674@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 14:58, <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 02:51:06PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 14:00, Jiang Biao <benbjiang@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Jiang Biao <benbjiang@tencent.com>
> > >
> > > Vruntime compensation has been down in place_entity() to
> > > boot the waking procedure for fair tasks. There is no need to
> >
> > s/boot/boost/ ?
> >
> > > do that for SCHED_IDLE task actually.
> > >
> > > Not compensating vruntime for SCHED_IDLE task could make
> > > SCHED_IDLE task more harmless for normal tasks.
>
> This is rather week. It would be much better if there's some actual data
> to support this claim.
>
> > > Signed-off-by: Jiang Biao <benbjiang@tencent.com>
> > > ---
> > >  kernel/sched/fair.c | 2 +-
> > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > index 1a68a0536add..adff77676a0a 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > @@ -4115,7 +4115,7 @@ place_entity(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se, int initial)
> > >                 vruntime += sched_vslice(cfs_rq, se);
> > >
> > >         /* sleeps up to a single latency don't count. */
> > > -       if (!initial) {
> > > +       if (!initial && likely(!task_has_idle_policy(task_of(se)))) {
> >
> > What if se is not a task ?
>
> Then we very much need it, because it might have fair tasks inside. I
> suppose you could do something complicated with idle_h_nr_running, but
> is all that really worth the effort?

Not sure that Jiang is using cgroups otherwise he would have seen a
warning I think.
That's been said, not compensating the vruntime for a sched_idle task
makes sense for me. Even if that will only help for others task in the
same cfs_rq

>
> > >                 unsigned long thresh = sysctl_sched_latency;
> > >
> > >                 /*
> > > --
> > > 2.21.0
> > >

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-20 13:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-20 12:00 [PATCH] sched/fair: avoid vruntime compensation for SCHED_IDLE task Jiang Biao
2020-08-20 12:51 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-08-20 12:58   ` peterz
2020-08-20 13:15     ` Vincent Guittot [this message]
2020-08-20 13:43       ` peterz
2020-08-20 14:09         ` Vincent Guittot
2020-08-20 14:24           ` Jiang Biao
2020-08-23  7:33           ` Jiang Biao
2020-08-28 12:55             ` Vincent Guittot
2020-09-01 10:14               ` Jiang Biao
2020-09-01 13:04                 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-09-01 14:19                   ` Jiang Biao
2020-08-20 14:19     ` Jiang Biao
2020-08-20 14:15   ` Jiang Biao
2020-08-21  0:37 ` [sched/fair] 88d13f778f: WARNING:at_kernel/sched/fair.c:#place_entity kernel test robot

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