From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>,
Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Morten Rasmussen <Morten.Rasmussen@arm.com>,
Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>, Parth Shah <parth@linux.ibm.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/10] sched/fair: rework the CFS load balance
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 10:44:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKfTPtCcvKuf1Gt0W-BeEbQxFP_co14jdv_L5zEpS==Ecibabg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191021075038.GA27361@gmail.com>
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 09:50, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>
> * Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> > Several wrong task placement have been raised with the current load
> > balance algorithm but their fixes are not always straight forward and
> > end up with using biased values to force migrations. A cleanup and rework
> > of the load balance will help to handle such UCs and enable to fine grain
> > the behavior of the scheduler for other cases.
> >
> > Patch 1 has already been sent separately and only consolidate asym policy
> > in one place and help the review of the changes in load_balance.
> >
> > Patch 2 renames the sum of h_nr_running in stats.
> >
> > Patch 3 removes meaningless imbalance computation to make review of
> > patch 4 easier.
> >
> > Patch 4 reworks load_balance algorithm and fixes some wrong task placement
> > but try to stay conservative.
> >
> > Patch 5 add the sum of nr_running to monitor non cfs tasks and take that
> > into account when pulling tasks.
> >
> > Patch 6 replaces runnable_load by load now that the signal is only used
> > when overloaded.
> >
> > Patch 7 improves the spread of tasks at the 1st scheduling level.
> >
> > Patch 8 uses utilization instead of load in all steps of misfit task
> > path.
> >
> > Patch 9 replaces runnable_load_avg by load_avg in the wake up path.
> >
> > Patch 10 optimizes find_idlest_group() that was using both runnable_load
> > and load. This has not been squashed with previous patch to ease the
> > review.
> >
> > Patch 11 reworks find_idlest_group() to follow the same steps as
> > find_busiest_group()
> >
> > Some benchmarks results based on 8 iterations of each tests:
> > - small arm64 dual quad cores system
> >
> > tip/sched/core w/ this patchset improvement
> > schedpipe 53125 +/-0.18% 53443 +/-0.52% (+0.60%)
> >
> > hackbench -l (2560/#grp) -g #grp
> > 1 groups 1.579 +/-29.16% 1.410 +/-13.46% (+10.70%)
> > 4 groups 1.269 +/-9.69% 1.205 +/-3.27% (+5.00%)
> > 8 groups 1.117 +/-1.51% 1.123 +/-1.27% (+4.57%)
> > 16 groups 1.176 +/-1.76% 1.164 +/-2.42% (+1.07%)
> >
> > Unixbench shell8
> > 1 test 1963.48 +/-0.36% 1902.88 +/-0.73% (-3.09%)
> > 224 tests 2427.60 +/-0.20% 2469.80 +/-0.42% (1.74%)
> >
> > - large arm64 2 nodes / 224 cores system
> >
> > tip/sched/core w/ this patchset improvement
> > schedpipe 124084 +/-1.36% 124445 +/-0.67% (+0.29%)
> >
> > hackbench -l (256000/#grp) -g #grp
> > 1 groups 15.305 +/-1.50% 14.001 +/-1.99% (+8.52%)
> > 4 groups 5.959 +/-0.70% 5.542 +/-3.76% (+6.99%)
> > 16 groups 3.120 +/-1.72% 3.253 +/-0.61% (-4.92%)
> > 32 groups 2.911 +/-0.88% 2.837 +/-1.16% (+2.54%)
> > 64 groups 2.805 +/-1.90% 2.716 +/-1.18% (+3.17%)
> > 128 groups 3.166 +/-7.71% 3.891 +/-6.77% (+5.82%)
> > 256 groups 3.655 +/-10.09% 3.185 +/-6.65% (+12.87%)
> >
> > dbench
> > 1 groups 328.176 +/-0.29% 330.217 +/-0.32% (+0.62%)
> > 4 groups 930.739 +/-0.50% 957.173 +/-0.66% (+2.84%)
> > 16 groups 1928.292 +/-0.36% 1978.234 +/-0.88% (+0.92%)
> > 32 groups 2369.348 +/-1.72% 2454.020 +/-0.90% (+3.57%)
> > 64 groups 2583.880 +/-3.39% 2618.860 +/-0.84% (+1.35%)
> > 128 groups 2256.406 +/-10.67% 2392.498 +/-2.13% (+6.03%)
> > 256 groups 1257.546 +/-3.81% 1674.684 +/-4.97% (+33.17%)
> >
> > Unixbench shell8
> > 1 test 6944.16 +/-0.02 6605.82 +/-0.11 (-4.87%)
> > 224 tests 13499.02 +/-0.14 13637.94 +/-0.47% (+1.03%)
> > lkp reported a -10% regression on shell8 (1 test) for v3 that
> > seems that is partially recovered on my platform with v4.
> >
> > tip/sched/core sha1:
> > commit 563c4f85f9f0 ("Merge branch 'sched/rt' into sched/core, to pick up -rt changes")
> >
> > Changes since v3:
> > - small typo and variable ordering fixes
> > - add some acked/reviewed tag
> > - set 1 instead of load for migrate_misfit
> > - use nr_h_running instead of load for asym_packing
> > - update the optimization of find_idlest_group() and put back somes
> > conditions when comparing load
> > - rework find_idlest_group() to match find_busiest_group() behavior
> >
> > Changes since v2:
> > - fix typo and reorder code
> > - some minor code fixes
> > - optimize the find_idles_group()
> >
> > Not covered in this patchset:
> > - Better detection of overloaded and fully busy state, especially for cases
> > when nr_running > nr CPUs.
> >
> > Vincent Guittot (11):
> > sched/fair: clean up asym packing
> > sched/fair: rename sum_nr_running to sum_h_nr_running
> > sched/fair: remove meaningless imbalance calculation
> > sched/fair: rework load_balance
> > sched/fair: use rq->nr_running when balancing load
> > sched/fair: use load instead of runnable load in load_balance
> > sched/fair: evenly spread tasks when not overloaded
> > sched/fair: use utilization to select misfit task
> > sched/fair: use load instead of runnable load in wakeup path
> > sched/fair: optimize find_idlest_group
> > sched/fair: rework find_idlest_group
> >
> > kernel/sched/fair.c | 1181 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------------------
> > 1 file changed, 682 insertions(+), 499 deletions(-)
>
> Thanks, that's an excellent series!
>
> I've queued it up in sched/core with a handful of readability edits to
> comments and changelogs.
Thanks
>
> There are some upstreaming caveats though, I expect this series to be a
> performance regression magnet:
>
> - load_balance() and wake-up changes invariably are such: some workloads
> only work/scale well by accident, and if we touch the logic it might
> flip over into a less advantageous scheduling pattern.
>
> - In particular the changes from balancing and waking on runnable load
> to full load that includes blocking *will* shift IO-intensive
> workloads that you tests don't fully capture I believe. You also made
> idle balancing more aggressive in essence - which might reduce cache
> locality for some workloads.
>
> A full run on Mel Gorman's magic scalability test-suite would be super
> useful ...
>
> Anyway, please be on the lookout for such performance regression reports.
Yes I monitor the regressions on the mailing list
>
> Also, we seem to have grown a fair amount of these TODO entries:
>
> kernel/sched/fair.c: * XXX borrowed from update_sg_lb_stats
> kernel/sched/fair.c: * XXX: only do this for the part of runnable > running ?
> kernel/sched/fair.c: * XXX illustrate
> kernel/sched/fair.c: } else if (sd_flag & SD_BALANCE_WAKE) { /* XXX always ? */
> kernel/sched/fair.c: * can also include other factors [XXX].
> kernel/sched/fair.c: * [XXX expand on:
> kernel/sched/fair.c: * [XXX more?]
> kernel/sched/fair.c: * [XXX write more on how we solve this.. _after_ merging pjt's patches that
> kernel/sched/fair.c: * XXX for now avg_load is not computed and always 0 so we
> kernel/sched/fair.c: /* XXX broken for overlapping NUMA groups */
>
I will have a look :-)
> :-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-10-21 8:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-10-18 13:26 [PATCH v4 00/10] sched/fair: rework the CFS load balance Vincent Guittot
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] sched/fair: clean up asym packing Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21 9:12 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Clean " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-30 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] sched/fair: clean " Mel Gorman
2019-10-30 16:03 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] sched/fair: rename sum_nr_running to sum_h_nr_running Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21 9:12 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Rename sg_lb_stats::sum_nr_running " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-30 14:53 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] sched/fair: rename sum_nr_running " Mel Gorman
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] sched/fair: remove meaningless imbalance calculation Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21 9:12 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Remove " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] sched/fair: rework load_balance Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21 9:12 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Rework load_balance() tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-30 15:45 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] sched/fair: rework load_balance Mel Gorman
2019-10-30 16:16 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-10-31 9:09 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-10-31 10:15 ` Mel Gorman
2019-10-31 11:13 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-10-31 11:40 ` Mel Gorman
2019-11-08 16:35 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-08 18:37 ` Mel Gorman
2019-11-12 10:58 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-12 15:06 ` Mel Gorman
2019-11-12 15:40 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-12 17:45 ` Mel Gorman
2019-11-18 13:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-11-18 13:57 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-18 14:51 ` Mel Gorman
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] sched/fair: use rq->nr_running when balancing load Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21 9:12 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Use " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-30 15:54 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] sched/fair: use " Mel Gorman
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] sched/fair: use load instead of runnable load in load_balance Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21 9:12 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Use load instead of runnable load in load_balance() tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-30 15:58 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] sched/fair: use load instead of runnable load in load_balance Mel Gorman
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] sched/fair: evenly spread tasks when not overloaded Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21 9:12 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Spread out tasks evenly " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-30 16:03 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] sched/fair: evenly spread tasks " Mel Gorman
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] sched/fair: use utilization to select misfit task Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21 9:12 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Use " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] sched/fair: use load instead of runnable load in wakeup path Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21 9:12 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Use " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] sched/fair: optimize find_idlest_group Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21 9:12 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Optimize find_idlest_group() tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] sched/fair: rework find_idlest_group Vincent Guittot
2019-10-21 9:12 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Rework find_idlest_group() tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-10-22 16:46 ` [PATCH] sched/fair: fix rework of find_idlest_group() Vincent Guittot
2019-10-23 7:50 ` Chen, Rong A
2019-10-30 16:07 ` Mel Gorman
2019-11-18 17:42 ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Fix " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2019-11-22 14:37 ` [PATCH] sched/fair: fix " Valentin Schneider
2019-11-25 9:16 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-25 11:03 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-11-20 11:58 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] sched/fair: rework find_idlest_group Qais Yousef
2019-11-20 13:21 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-20 16:53 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-20 17:34 ` Qais Yousef
2019-11-20 17:43 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-20 18:10 ` Qais Yousef
2019-11-20 18:20 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-20 18:27 ` Qais Yousef
2019-11-20 19:28 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-20 19:55 ` Qais Yousef
2019-11-21 14:58 ` Qais Yousef
2019-11-22 14:34 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-11-25 9:59 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-25 11:13 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-10-21 7:50 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] sched/fair: rework the CFS load balance Ingo Molnar
2019-10-21 8:44 ` Vincent Guittot [this message]
2019-10-21 12:56 ` Phil Auld
2019-10-24 12:38 ` Phil Auld
2019-10-24 13:46 ` Phil Auld
2019-10-24 14:59 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-10-25 13:33 ` Phil Auld
2019-10-28 13:03 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-10-30 14:39 ` Phil Auld
2019-10-30 16:24 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2019-10-30 16:35 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-10-30 17:19 ` Phil Auld
2019-10-30 17:25 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-10-30 17:29 ` Phil Auld
2019-10-30 17:28 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-10-30 17:44 ` Phil Auld
2019-10-30 17:25 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-10-31 13:57 ` Phil Auld
2019-10-31 16:41 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-10-30 16:24 ` Mel Gorman
2019-10-30 16:35 ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-18 13:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-11-25 12:48 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-01-03 16:39 ` Valentin Schneider
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