From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
To: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
Cc: Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Morten Rasmussen <Morten.Rasmussen@arm.com>,
viresh kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>,
Luca Abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>,
Claudio Scordino <claudio@evidence.eu.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
"Cc: Android Kernel" <kernel-team@android.com>,
Alessio Balsini <alessio.balsini@santannapisa.it>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 05/10] cpufreq/schedutil: get max utilization
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 09:14:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKfTPtD9KQTeeP0BNyhnqh=UXL0T_jK0PcvWWBjoyj0VC8TkRg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180604070438.GA2731@localhost.localdomain>
On 4 June 2018 at 09:04, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi Vincent,
>
> On 04/06/18 08:41, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>> On 1 June 2018 at 19:45, Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 03:53:07PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> > IMO I feel its overkill to account dl_avg when we already have DL's running
>> > bandwidth we can use. I understand it may be too instanenous, but perhaps we
>>
>> We keep using dl bandwidth which is quite correct for dl needs but
>> doesn't reflect how it has disturbed other classes
>>
>> > can fix CFS's problems within CFS itself and not have to do this kind of
>> > extra external accounting ?
>
> I would also keep accounting for waiting time due to higher prio classes
> all inside CFS. My impression, when discussing it with you on IRC, was
> that we should be able to do that by not decaying cfs.util_avg when CFS
> is preempted (creating a new signal for it). Is not this enough?
We don't just want to not decay a signal but increase the signal to
reflect the amount of preemption
Then, we can't do that in a current signal. So you would like to add
another metrics in cfs_rq ?
The place doesn't really matter to be honest in cfs_rq or in dl_rq but
you will not prevent to add call in dl class to start/stop the
accounting of the preemption
>
> I feel we should try to keep cross-class accounting/interaction at a
> minimum.
accounting for cross class preemption can't be done without
cross-class accounting
Regards,
Vincent
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Juri
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-04 7:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-25 13:12 [PATCH v5 00/10] track CPU utilization Vincent Guittot
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] sched/pelt: Move pelt related code in a dedicated file Vincent Guittot
2018-05-25 14:26 ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-25 16:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-29 8:21 ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-25 18:04 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-05-29 14:55 ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-29 15:02 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-29 15:04 ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] sched/rt: add rt_rq utilization tracking Vincent Guittot
2018-05-25 15:54 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-05-29 13:29 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-30 9:32 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-05-30 10:06 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-30 11:01 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-05-30 14:39 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] cpufreq/schedutil: add rt " Vincent Guittot
2018-05-30 7:03 ` Viresh Kumar
2018-05-30 8:23 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-30 9:40 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-05-30 9:53 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-30 16:46 ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-31 8:46 ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-01 16:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-01 17:23 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-06-04 10:17 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-04 15:16 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] sched/dl: add dl_rq " Vincent Guittot
2018-05-30 10:50 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-05-30 11:51 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] cpufreq/schedutil: get max utilization Vincent Guittot
2018-05-28 10:12 ` Juri Lelli
2018-05-28 14:57 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-28 15:22 ` Juri Lelli
2018-05-28 16:34 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-31 10:27 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-05-31 13:02 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-01 13:53 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-01 17:45 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-04 6:41 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-04 7:04 ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-04 7:14 ` Vincent Guittot [this message]
2018-06-04 10:12 ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-04 12:35 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-29 5:08 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-05-29 6:31 ` Juri Lelli
2018-05-29 6:48 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-29 9:47 ` Juri Lelli
2018-05-29 8:40 ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-29 9:52 ` Juri Lelli
2018-05-30 8:37 ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-30 8:51 ` Juri Lelli
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] sched: remove rt and dl from sched_avg Vincent Guittot
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] sched/irq: add irq utilization tracking Vincent Guittot
2018-05-30 15:55 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-05-30 18:45 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-31 16:54 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-06-06 16:06 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-07 8:29 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-06-07 8:44 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-07 9:06 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] cpufreq/schedutil: take into account interrupt Vincent Guittot
2018-05-28 10:41 ` Juri Lelli
2018-05-28 12:06 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-28 12:37 ` Juri Lelli
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] sched: remove rt_avg code Vincent Guittot
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 10/10] proc/sched: remove unused sched_time_avg_ms Vincent Guittot
2018-06-04 16:50 ` [PATCH v5 00/10] track CPU utilization Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-04 17:13 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-04 18:08 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-05 14:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-05 15:03 ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-05 15:38 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-06-05 22:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-06 9:44 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-06 9:59 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-06 10:02 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-06 10:12 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-05 8:36 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-05 10:57 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-05 11:59 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-05 13:12 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-05 13:18 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-05 13:52 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-05 13:55 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-05 14:09 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-05 14:21 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-05 12:11 ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-05 13:05 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-05 13:15 ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-05 14:01 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-05 14:13 ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-06 13:05 ` Claudio Scordino
2018-06-06 13:20 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-06 13:53 ` Claudio Scordino
2018-06-06 14:10 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-06 21:05 ` luca abeni
2018-06-07 8:25 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-06 20:53 ` luca abeni
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