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From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
To: Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
	Benjamin Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/4] sched/fair: Fix attaching task sched avgs twice when switching to fair or changing task group
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:15:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKfTPtDfTKGgQd=ebiKijA0_nBEKzwHL7W_WnMw6AWaVP=TC-g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160615001818.GL8105@intel.com>

On 15 June 2016 at 02:18, Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 09:46:53AM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>> I still have concerned with this change of the behavior that  attaches
>> the task only when it is enqueued. The load avg of the task will not
>> be decayed between the time we move it into its new group until its
>> enqueue. With this change, a task's load can stay high whereas it has
>> slept for the last couple of seconds.
>
> The task will be updated when it is moved in the detach, so if it stays
> high, it is highly expected to be enqueued soon. But if the task is never

you can't do such assumption because if it's not enqueued soon (keep
in mind that a 10ms sleep will decay the value by 20% from max),
metrics become just wrong. Furthermore, the load metrics of the task
becomes different between a task being moved or the same task staying
on same cfs_rq.

> enqueued, we don't bother the new gruop cfs_rq.
>
> So this is not perfect, and nothing is perfect, but a simple solution.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-15 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-14 22:21 [PATCH v6 0/4] sched/fair: Fix attach and detach sched avgs for task group change and sched class change Yuyang Du
2016-06-14 22:21 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] sched/fair: Fix attaching task sched avgs twice when switching to fair or changing task group Yuyang Du
2016-06-15  7:46   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-06-15  0:18     ` Yuyang Du
2016-06-15 14:15       ` Vincent Guittot [this message]
2016-06-15 15:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-16  1:00       ` Yuyang Du
2016-06-16 16:30       ` Vincent Guittot
2016-06-16 17:17         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-16 18:57           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-06-16 18:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-16 19:00           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-06-16 20:07             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-16 21:21               ` Vincent Guittot
2016-06-17  2:12                 ` Yuyang Du
2016-06-17 12:00                   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-06-17  9:48                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-17 11:31                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-14 22:21 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] sched/fair: Move load and util avgs from wake_up_new_task() to sched_fork() Yuyang Du
2016-06-14 22:21 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] sched/fair: Skip detach sched avgs for new task when changing task groups Yuyang Du
2016-06-14 22:21 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] sched/fair: Add inline to detach_entity_load_evg() Yuyang Du

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