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From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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	tglx@linutronix.de, len.brown@intel.com, arjan@linux.intel.com,
	amit.kucheria@linaro.org, corbet@lwn.net
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 5/6] sched: pack the idle load balance
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:55:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKfTPtDo3dmEZU-R62unQH9j5CxZWJj+Ws5CTBptOzTohkNJMA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1364308932.5053.46.camel@laptop>

On 26 March 2013 15:42, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 15:03 +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>> > But ha! here's your NO_HZ link.. but does the above DTRT and ensure
>> > that the ILB is a little core when possible?
>>
>> The loop looks for an idle CPU as close as possible to the buddy CPU
>> and the buddy CPU is the 1st CPU has been chosen. So if your buddy is
>> a little and there is an idle little, the ILB will be this idle
>> little.
>
> Earlier you wrote:
>
>>       | Cluster 0   | Cluster 1   |
>>       | CPU0 | CPU1 | CPU2 | CPU3 |
>> -----------------------------------
>> buddy | CPU0 | CPU0 | CPU0 | CPU2 |
>
> So extrapolating that to a 4+4 big-little you'd get something like:
>
>       |   little  A9  ||   big A15     |
>       | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 || 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
> ------+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+
> buddy | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 || 0 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
>
> Right?

yes

>
> So supposing the current ILB is 6, we'll only check 4, not 0-3, even
> though there might be a perfectly idle cpu in there.

We will check 4,5,7 at MC level in order to pack in the group of A15
(because they are not sharing the same power domain). If none of them
are idle, we will look at CPU level and will check CPUs 0-3.

>
> Also, your scheme fails to pack when cpus 0,4 are filled, even when
> there's idle cores around.

The primary target is to pack the tasks only when we are in a not busy
system so you will have a power improvement without performance
decrease. is_light_task function returns false and  is_buddy_busy
function true before the buddy is fully loaded and the scheduler will
fall back into the default behavior which spreads tasks and races to
idle.

We can extend the buddy CPU and the packing mechanism to fill one CPU
before filling another buddy but it's not always the best choice for
performance and/or power and thus it will imply to have a knob to
select this full packing mode.

>
> If we'd use the ILB as packing cpu, we would simply select a next pack
> target once the old one fills up.

Yes, we will be able to pack the long running tasks and the wake up
will take care of the short tasks

>

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-26 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-22 12:25 [RFC PATCH v3 0/6] sched: packing small tasks Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/6] Revert "sched: Introduce temporary FAIR_GROUP_SCHED dependency for load-tracking" Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/6] sched: add a new SD_SHARE_POWERDOMAIN flag for sched_domain Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/6] sched: pack small tasks Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 12:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-27 10:21     ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-03-27 11:00       ` Vincent Guittot
2013-04-26 10:30         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-26 11:34           ` Vincent Guittot
2013-04-26 10:18       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-26 10:32         ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-03-26 12:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 13:00     ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27  4:33     ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-03-27  4:48       ` Alex Shi
2013-03-27  8:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 12:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 13:53     ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 15:29     ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-03-27  8:46       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-27  8:54         ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27  9:00           ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]             ` <20130327111855.GI801@MacBook-Pro.local>
     [not found]               ` <1364393634.5053.71.camel@laptop>
     [not found]                 ` <20130327163642.GA1136@localhost.cambridge.arm.com>
2013-03-27 17:18                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-03-27 17:37                     ` Catalin Marinas
2013-03-27 15:37           ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-03-22 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/6] sched: secure access to other CPU statistics Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 12:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 13:06     ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-22 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/6] sched: pack the idle load balance Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 12:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 14:03     ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-26 14:42       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-03-26 15:55         ` Vincent Guittot [this message]
2013-03-27  4:56           ` Alex Shi
2013-03-27  8:05             ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27  8:47               ` Alex Shi
2013-03-27 10:30                 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-03-27 13:32                   ` Alex Shi
2013-03-27  8:49             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-05 11:08         ` Vincent Guittot
2013-04-22  5:45           ` Preeti U Murthy
     [not found]             ` <CAKfTPtCCCifC=c+xjjnAH_HSqkR80PiQoddQKXPHuZwZawbvcA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-04-23  2:23               ` Alex Shi
2013-04-23  4:57                 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-04-23 15:30                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-04-26 10:54                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-23  4:36               ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-03-22 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/6] ARM: sched: clear SD_SHARE_POWERDOMAIN Vincent Guittot
2013-03-23 11:55 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/6] sched: packing small tasks Preeti U Murthy
2013-03-25  9:58   ` Vincent Guittot

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