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From: Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
To: Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexander Duyck <aduyck@mirantis.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Lan Tianyu <tianyu.lan@intel.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	konrad.wilk@oracle.com,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] x86: Add support for guest DMA dirty page tracking
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 20:54:09 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKgT0Uf6ZFRkKFfWzDJPhKqPYD9mXEWR6jpXgVR9DpZYugDOCg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <566E2917.7050705@gmail.com>

On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2015/12/14 5:28, Alexander Duyck wrote:
>>
>> This patch set is meant to be the guest side code for a proof of concept
>> involving leaving pass-through devices in the guest during the warm-up
>> phase of guest live migration.  In order to accomplish this I have added a
>> new function called dma_mark_dirty that will mark the pages associated
>> with
>> the DMA transaction as dirty in the case of either an unmap or a
>> sync_.*_for_cpu where the DMA direction is either DMA_FROM_DEVICE or
>> DMA_BIDIRECTIONAL.  The pass-through device must still be removed before
>> the stop-and-copy phase, however allowing the device to be present should
>> significantly improve the performance of the guest during the warm-up
>> period.
>>
>> This current implementation is very preliminary and there are number of
>> items still missing.  Specifically in order to make this a more complete
>> solution we need to support:
>> 1.  Notifying hypervisor that drivers are dirtying DMA pages received
>> 2.  Bypassing page dirtying when it is not needed.
>>
>
> Shouldn't current log dirty mechanism already cover them?

The guest has no way of currently knowing that the hypervisor is doing
dirty page logging, and the log dirty mechanism currently has no way
of tracking device DMA accesses.  This change is meant to bridge the
two so that the guest device driver will force the SWIOTLB DMA API to
mark pages written to by the device as dirty.

>> The two mechanisms referenced above would likely require coordination with
>> QEMU and as such are open to discussion.  I haven't attempted to address
>> them as I am not sure there is a consensus as of yet.  My personal
>> preference would be to add a vendor-specific configuration block to the
>> emulated pci-bridge interfaces created by QEMU that would allow us to
>> essentially extend shpc to support guest live migration with pass-through
>> devices.
>>
>> The functionality in this patch set is currently disabled by default.  To
>> enable it you can select "SWIOTLB page dirtying" from the "Processor type
>> and features" menu.
>
>
> Only SWIOTLB is supported?

Yes.  For right now this only supports SWIOTLB.  The assumption here
is that SWIOTLB is in use for most cases where an IOMMU is not
present.  If an IOMMU is present in a virtualized guest then most
likely the IOMMU might be able to provide a separate mechanism for
dirty page tracking.

- Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-14  4:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-13 21:28 [RFC PATCH 0/3] x86: Add support for guest DMA dirty page tracking Alexander Duyck
2015-12-13 21:28 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] swiotlb: Fold static unmap and sync calls into calling functions Alexander Duyck
2015-12-13 21:28 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] xen/swiotlb: " Alexander Duyck
2015-12-13 21:28 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] x86: Create dma_mark_dirty to dirty pages used for DMA by VM guest Alexander Duyck
2015-12-14 14:00   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-14 16:34     ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-14 17:20       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-14 17:59         ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-14 20:52           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-14 22:32             ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-14  2:27 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] x86: Add support for guest DMA dirty page tracking Yang Zhang
2015-12-14  4:54   ` Alexander Duyck [this message]
2015-12-14  5:22     ` Yang Zhang
2015-12-14  5:46       ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-14  7:20         ` Yang Zhang
2015-12-14 14:02           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found] ` <20160104204104.GB17427@char.us.oracle.com>
2016-01-05  3:11   ` Alexander Duyck
2016-01-05  9:40     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-05 10:01       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-01-05 10:35         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-05 10:45           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-01-05 10:59             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-05 11:03               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-01-05 11:11                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-05 11:06               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-05 11:05             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-05 12:43               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-01-05 13:16                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-05 16:18       ` Alexander Duyck
2016-06-06  9:18         ` Re: [Qemu-devel] " Zhou Jie
2016-06-06 16:04           ` Alex Duyck
2016-06-09 10:14             ` Zhou Jie
2016-06-09 15:39               ` Alexander Duyck
2016-06-12  3:03                 ` Zhou Jie
2016-06-13  1:28                   ` Alexander Duyck

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