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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: "open list:HARDWARE RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR CORE" 
	<linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Paul Crowley <paulcrowley@google.com>,
	Greg Kaiser <gkaiser@google.com>,
	Michael Halcrow <mhalcrow@google.com>,
	"Jason A . Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Samuel Neves <samuel.c.p.neves@gmail.com>,
	Tomer Ashur <tomer.ashur@esat.kuleuven.be>,
	Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 8/9] crypto: arm/poly1305 - add NEON accelerated Poly1305 implementation
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 12:00:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKv+Gu8svYM+YdaJF+z2Q=ZYhfnLDybsiidz9UvevEaa=4U8TA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180807231941.GC25300@gmail.com>

On 8 August 2018 at 01:19, Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hi Ard,
>
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 02:09:05PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>> On 7 August 2018 at 00:32, Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org> wrote:
>> > From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
>> >
>> > Add the Poly1305 code from OpenSSL, which was written by Andy Polyakov.
>> > I took the .S file from WireGuard, whose author has made the needed
>> > tweaks for Linux kernel integration and verified that Andy had given
>> > permission for GPLv2 distribution.  I didn't make any additional changes
>> > to the .S file.
>> >
>> > Note, for HPolyC I'd eventually like a Poly1305 implementation that
>> > allows precomputing powers of the key.  But for now this implementation
>> > just provides the existing semantics where the key and nonce are treated
>> > as a "one-time key" that must be provided for every message.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
>>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> In the past, I worked with Andy on several occasions to get my kernel
>> changes incorporated into the upstream OpenSSL version of the
>> 'perlasm' .pl file.
>>
>> This achieves a number of things:
>> - we get a readable version of the code in the kernel tree,
>> - our changes are reviewed upstream
>> - upgrading involves grabbing the latest .pl file rather than merging
>> generated code (which requires careful review)
>> - GPLv2 permission is made explicit, rather than something someone
>> claims to have reached agreement on,
>> - no legal ambiguity whether the output of the perl script is covered
>> by the license (which is what we incorporate here)
>>
>> Note that the 'available under GPL depending on where you obtained the
>> code' in the CRYPTOGAMS license likely conflicts with the GPL itself,
>> but I am not a lawyer so I'd much prefer having the upstream copy
>> mention this explicitly.
>
> First, note that Jason is proposing adding this exact same .S file as part of
> his new "zinc" cryptography library, along with 7 other OpenSSL .S files.  So it
> may really be him you need to convince.
>

Interesting choice of wording :-) I thought it was usually the other
way around, i.e., it is the submitter who needs to convince the
reviewers/maintainers.

> But yes, I don't really like the approach of just including the .S output of the
> .pl script either, as it loses semantic information that was in the .pl script.
> Ideally the source should either be the .pl script, or else a real hand written
> .S file with the proper comments and macros to make it readable -- not something
> in-between.
>
> Getting the license clarification and possibly other changes upstream is a good
> idea too.  I noticed, though, that the actual wording used in some files
> upstream ("Permission to use under GPLv2 terms is granted") apparently still
> isn't considered sufficient by some, so a separate clarification from Andy was
> apparently still needed: see kernel commit c2e415fe75bbc83c1...
>

Yeah. In any case, I don't think we should consider an intermediate
solution of merging a chunk of generated asm now and work out these
details later. This should be done right from the start.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-22 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-06 22:32 [RFC PATCH 0/9] crypto: HPolyC support Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] crypto: chacha20-generic - add HChaCha20 library function Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] crypto: chacha20-generic - add XChaCha20 support Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] crypto: chacha20-generic - refactor to allow varying number of rounds Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 23:16   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-08-06 23:48     ` Paul Crowley
2018-08-07  0:15       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-08-07  1:06         ` Paul Crowley
2018-08-07 10:21       ` Samuel Neves
2018-08-07 21:51         ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-08  0:15           ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] crypto: chacha - add XChaCha12 support Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] crypto: arm/chacha20 - add XChaCha20 support Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] crypto: arm/chacha20 - refactor to allow varying number of rounds Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] crypto: arm/chacha - add XChaCha12 support Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] crypto: arm/poly1305 - add NEON accelerated Poly1305 implementation Eric Biggers
2018-08-07 12:09   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07 23:19     ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-22 10:00       ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2018-08-06 22:33 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] crypto: hpolyc - add support for the HPolyC encryption mode Eric Biggers
2018-08-06 23:04 ` [PATCH] crypto: remove speck Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-08-07  1:03   ` Jeffrey Walton
2018-08-07 20:18     ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-07  1:19   ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-07  2:38     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-08-07  3:12       ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-07  3:15         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-08-07 12:51           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-07  6:22     ` [PATCH v2] crypto: remove Speck Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-08-07  6:57       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-04  4:55       ` Herbert Xu

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