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From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	clang-built-linux <clang-built-linux@googlegroups.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: mark some mpspec inline functions as __init
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 13:58:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKwvOdkKjOb8fS7NgFxvAwEQTp3fPjenhvehnjh5xRw=HevQ=Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210225213300.GF380@zn.tnic>

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 1:33 PM Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 12:31:33PM -0800, Nick Desaulniers wrote:
> > (full thread: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210225112247.2240389-1-arnd@kernel.org/)
> > I suspect in this specific case, "Interprocedural Sparse Conditional
> > Constant Propagation" sees the calls to the same fn with different
> > constants, propagates those down creating two specialized versions of
> > the callee (so they are distinct functions now), inlines those into
> > get_smp_config()/early_get_smp_config(), then there's too many callers
> > of those in a single TU where inlining would cause excessive code
> > bloat.
>
> Well, there's exactly one caller of get_smp_config - that's setup_arch().
> early_get_smp_config() gets called also exactly once in amd_numa_init().
>
> Now, with my simplistic approach, I can replace the lines at those call
> sites by hand with the
>
>         x86_init.mpparse.get_smp_config(<arg>);
>
> call. So those become exactly one function call. I still don't see how
> that can be done any differently, frankly.
>
> But apparently the cost model has decided that this is not inlineable.
> Maybe because that function ptr is assigned at boot time and that
> somehow gets the cost model to give it a very high (or low) value. Or
> maybe because the wrappers are calling through a variable - the x86_init
> thing - which is in a different section and that confuses the inliner.
> Or whatever - totally speculating here.

The config that reproduces it wasn't shared here; I wouldn't be
surprised if this was found via randconfig that enabled some config
that led to excessive code bloat somewhere somehow.

>
> And this brings me to my point - you can't expect people to do all that
> crazy dance of compiler introspection and understand cost models and
> compiler optimization just to fix stuff like that.

Oh, I don't expect everyone to; just leaving breadcrumbs showing other
people on thread how to fish. ;)

>
> Now, imagine we "fix" this to clang-13's inliner's satisfaction. Now
> imagine too that gcc Version Next changes their inliner and that inliner
> says that that "fix" is wrong, for whatever reason, bottom up, top down,
> whatever. Do you feel the annoyance all around?

Yes, mutually unsatisfiable cases are painful, but I don't think
that's what's going on here.

>
> And since, as you say, there are no silver bullets here, I think for
> cases like that we'll need a "I know what I'm doing Mr. Compiler, TYVM,
> even if your cost model says otherwise" facility. And in this case I
> still think __always_inline is correct.

Sure, it doesn't really matter to me which way this is fixed.  I
personally prefer placing functions in the correct sections and
letting the compiler be flexible, since if all of this is to satisfy
some randconfig then __always_inline is making a decision for all
configs, but perhaps it doesn't matter.
-- 
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-25 22:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-25 11:22 [PATCH] x86: mark some mpspec inline functions as __init Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-25 11:45 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-02-25 12:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-25 12:42     ` Borislav Petkov
2021-02-25 13:20       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-25 20:31         ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-02-25 21:33           ` Borislav Petkov
2021-02-25 21:58             ` Nick Desaulniers [this message]
2021-02-25 22:16               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-26  8:13               ` Borislav Petkov
2021-02-26 13:24                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-27 15:11                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-25 22:54           ` Peter Zijlstra

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