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From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
To: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nicolas Saenz Julienne <nsaenzjulienne@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Russell King <rmk+kernel@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Stefan Wahren <wahrenst@gmx.net>, Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] compiler: enable CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING forcibly
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 15:34:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKwvOdm_GoUeDjAYXTqCTuvdL+9vwvfeofhv06MLMYVA75CnEg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANiq72kbZVB4vdyQonMQzuRHdh=BnD6F=sv5NQsFey5_xAB-Zg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 3:08 PM Miguel Ojeda
<miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 11:50 PM Nick Desaulniers
> <ndesaulniers@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > So __attribute__((always_inline)) doesn't guarantee that code will be
> > inlined.  [...] inline and __attribute__((always_inline))
> > are a heuristic laden mess and should not be relied upon.
>
> Small note: in GCC, __attribute__((always_inline)) is documented as
> actually guaranteeing to either inline or error otherwise (although
> see the remark for indirect calls):
>
>     "Failure to inline such a function is diagnosed as an error. Note

Not an error, but a warning at least: https://godbolt.org/z/_V5im1.

That's interesting, so it has multiple semantics, because it's also
documented to inline even when no optimizations are specified.  So
when someone uses __attribute__((always_inline)) without a comment,
it's not clear whether they mean for there to be a warning when this
is not inlined, or for it to be inlined at -O0 (guess not for the
kernel), or both.  If the kernel wants to enforce the former, why not
set `-Werror=attributes`?  Maybe that warning is too broad?  Seems
like a recipe for subtly broken code found at runtime, when we'd
rather have stronger compile time guarantees.

> that if such a function is called indirectly the compiler may or may
> not inline it depending on optimization level and a failure to inline
> an indirect call may or may not be diagnosed."
>
> As for LLVM/Clang, no idea, since it does not say anything about it in
> the docs -- but from what you say, it is a weaker guarantee.

Filed https://bugs.llvm.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43517
-- 
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-30 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-30  3:43 [PATCH] compiler: enable CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING forcibly Masahiro Yamada
2019-08-30 20:54 ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-09-26  8:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-09-26  9:02   ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-09-26  9:26     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-09-26  9:46       ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-09-27 10:43 ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2019-09-27 10:59   ` Charles Keepax
2019-09-27 22:08   ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-09-27 22:38     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-30 11:26       ` Will Deacon
2019-09-30 12:05         ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-09-30 12:18           ` Will Deacon
2019-09-30 21:50             ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-09-30 22:08               ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-09-30 22:34                 ` Nick Desaulniers [this message]
2019-10-01  9:28               ` Will Deacon
2019-10-01 16:32                 ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-10-01 17:01                   ` Will Deacon
2019-10-01 17:44                     ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-10-01 17:55                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-10-01 18:00                         ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-10-01 18:14                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-10-01 20:21                             ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-10-01 20:53                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-10-01 21:06                                 ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-10-01 21:14                                   ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-10-01 20:59                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-10-01 21:26                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-10-01 21:32                                   ` Nick Desaulniers
2019-10-01 21:58                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-10-02 12:55                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-10-02 18:51                                 ` Will Deacon
2019-10-02 20:39                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-10-03  2:10                                   ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-10-03 17:01                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-10-03 17:08                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-10-03 17:23                                       ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-10-03 17:29                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-10-03 20:21                                           ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-10-04  7:37                                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-10-03 16:36                                   ` Will Deacon
2019-10-12 10:15                                     ` Stefan Wahren
2019-10-12 11:12                                       ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-10-12 14:45                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-10-01  9:39             ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-10-01 10:40               ` Will Deacon
2019-09-27 10:58 ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2019-09-30  6:04   ` Masahiro Yamada

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