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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] prctl,x86 Add PR_[GET|SET]_CPUID for controlling the CPUID instruction.
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 12:36:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrUkmiwLDD0V-b5woDncOzdqZaS4Pg5EnneXD4ZEN7ttbg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2c7b1052-be5a-f776-60e5-23136cd7443c@citrix.com>

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Andrew Cooper
<andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
> On 14/09/2016 20:23, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>> On 09/14/2016 02:52 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Kyle Huey <me@kylehuey.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
>>>>> You should explicitly check that, if the
>>>>> feature is set under Xen PV, then the MSR actually works as
>>>>> advertised.  This may require talking to the Xen folks to make sure
>>>>> you're testing the right configuration.
>>>> This is interesting.  When running under Xen PV the kernel is allowed
>>>> to read the real value of MSR_PLATFORM_INFO and see that CPUID
>>>> faulting is supported.  But as you suggested, writing to
>>>> MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES doesn't actually enable CPUID faulting, at
>>>> least not in any way that works.
>>>>
>>>> It's not obvious to me how to test this, because when this feature
>>>> works, CPUID only faults in userspace, not in the kernel.  Is there
>>>> existing code somewhere that runs tests like this in userspace?
>>>>
>>> Andrew, Boris: should we expect Xen PV to do anything sensible when we
>>> write to MSR_PLATFORM_INFO to turn on CPUID faulting?  Should the Xen
>>> PV rdmsr hooks or perhaps the hypervisor mask out the feature if it
>>> isn't going to be supported?
>> The hypervisor uses CPUID faulting so we shouldn't advertise this
>> feature to guests.
>
> In the case that the hardware has faulting, or for any HVM guest, the
> extra cost to making the feature available to the guest is a single
> conditional test in the cpuid path.  This is about as close to zero as a
> feature gets.  We really should be offering the feature to guests, and
> have it actually working.  The issue here is that it is leaking when we
> weren't intending to offer it.

As long as Xen can fix this one way or the other in reasonably short
order, I think I'm okay with having Linux incorrectly think it works
on old Xen hypervisors.

--Andy

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-14 19:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-12  0:29 [PATCH] prctl,x86 Add PR_[GET|SET]_CPUID for controlling the CPUID instruction Kyle Huey
2016-09-12  9:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-12 14:15   ` Kyle Huey
2016-09-12 14:34     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-13 18:42     ` Kyle Huey
2016-09-12 16:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-09-12 17:18   ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-12 17:56   ` Jann Horn
2016-09-12 21:07     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-09-14  6:13   ` Kyle Huey
2016-09-14 18:52     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-09-14 19:22       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-09-14 19:23       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-09-14 19:28         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-09-14 19:36           ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2016-09-14 19:42             ` Andrew Cooper
2016-09-12 17:37 ` Andi Kleen
2016-09-12 18:25   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

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