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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com" 
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Hoeun Ryu <hoeun.ryu@gmail.com>, PaX Team <pageexec@freemail.hu>,
	Emese Revfy <re.emese@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2][PATCH 04/11] x86: Implement __arch_rare_write_begin/unmap()
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 08:59:00 -0700
Message-ID: <CALCETrVErxE5P=V4LD=kFCBtnp2YYEGRsbxhTG0SXJjrw6Yk1A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jLENkemQiL6bcL5=qsesi-2M=1jYhS7SGBpBG64ER2CsA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>> Based on PaX's x86 pax_{open,close}_kernel() implementation, this
>>>>> allows HAVE_ARCH_RARE_WRITE to work on x86.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> +
>>>>> +static __always_inline unsigned long __arch_rare_write_begin(void)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +       unsigned long cr0;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +       preempt_disable();
>>>>
>>>> This looks wrong.  DEBUG_LOCKS_WARN_ON(!irqs_disabled()) would work,
>>>> as would local_irq_disable().  There's no way that just disabling
>>>> preemption is enough.
>>>>
>>>> (Also, how does this interact with perf nmis?)
>>>
>>> Do you mean preempt_disable() isn't strong enough here? I'm open to
>>> suggestions. The goal would be to make sure nothing between _begin and
>>> _end would get executed without interruption...
>>>
>>
>> Sorry for the very slow response.
>>
>> preempt_disable() isn't strong enough to prevent interrupts, and an
>> interrupt here would run with WP off, causing unknown havoc.  I tend
>> to think that the caller should be responsible for turning off
>> interrupts.
>
> So, something like:
>
> Top-level functions:
>
> static __always_inline rare_write_begin(void)
> {
>     preempt_disable();
>     local_irq_disable();
>     barrier();
>     __arch_rare_write_begin();
>     barrier();
> }

Looks good, except you don't need preempt_disable().
local_irq_disable() also disables preemption.  You might need to use
local_irq_save(), though, depending on whether any callers already
have IRQs off.

--Andy

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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-29 18:15 [RFC v2] Introduce rare_write() infrastructure Kees Cook
2017-03-29 18:15 ` [RFC v2][PATCH 01/11] " Kees Cook
2017-03-29 18:23   ` Kees Cook
2017-03-30  7:44     ` Ho-Eun Ryu
2017-03-30 17:02       ` Kees Cook
2017-04-07  8:09   ` Ho-Eun Ryu
2017-04-07 20:38     ` Kees Cook
2017-03-29 18:15 ` [RFC v2][PATCH 02/11] lkdtm: add test for " Kees Cook
2017-03-30  9:34   ` [kernel-hardening] " Ian Campbell
2017-03-30 16:16     ` Kees Cook
2017-03-29 18:15 ` [RFC v2][PATCH 03/11] net: switch sock_diag handlers to rare_write() Kees Cook
2017-03-29 18:15 ` [RFC v2][PATCH 04/11] x86: Implement __arch_rare_write_begin/unmap() Kees Cook
2017-03-29 22:38   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-30  1:41     ` Kees Cook
2017-04-05 23:57       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-06  0:14         ` Kees Cook
2017-04-06 15:59           ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2017-04-07  8:34             ` [kernel-hardening] " Mathias Krause
2017-04-07  9:46               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-07 10:51                 ` Mathias Krause
2017-04-07 13:14                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-07 13:30                     ` Mathias Krause
2017-04-07 16:14                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-07 16:22                         ` Mark Rutland
2017-04-07 19:58                         ` PaX Team
2017-04-08  4:58                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-09 12:47                             ` PaX Team
2017-04-10  0:10                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-10 10:42                                 ` PaX Team
2017-04-10 16:01                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-07 20:44                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-07 21:20                           ` Kees Cook
2017-04-08  4:12                             ` Daniel Micay
2017-04-08  4:13                               ` Daniel Micay
2017-04-08  4:21                         ` Daniel Micay
2017-04-08  5:07                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-08  7:33                             ` Daniel Micay
2017-04-08 15:20                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-09 10:53                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-04-10 10:22                                 ` Mark Rutland
2017-04-09 20:24                             ` PaX Team
2017-04-10  0:31                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-10 19:47                                 ` PaX Team
2017-04-10 20:27                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-10 20:13                               ` Kees Cook
2017-04-10 20:17                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-07 19:25                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-07 14:45                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-04-10 10:29                     ` Mark Rutland
2017-04-07 19:52                 ` PaX Team
2017-04-10  8:26                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-04-10 19:55                     ` PaX Team
2017-04-07  9:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-29 18:15 ` [RFC v2][PATCH 05/11] ARM: mm: dump: Add domain to output Kees Cook
2017-03-29 18:15 ` [RFC v2][PATCH 06/11] ARM: domains: Extract common USER domain init Kees Cook
2017-03-29 18:15 ` [RFC v2][PATCH 07/11] ARM: mm: set DOMAIN_WR_RARE for rodata Kees Cook
2017-03-29 18:16 ` [RFC v2][PATCH 08/11] ARM: Implement __arch_rare_write_begin/end() Kees Cook
2017-04-07  9:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-29 18:16 ` [RFC v2][PATCH 09/11] list: add rare_write() list helpers Kees Cook
2017-03-29 18:16 ` [RFC v2][PATCH 10/11] gcc-plugins: Add constify plugin Kees Cook
2017-03-29 18:16 ` [RFC v2][PATCH 11/11] cgroups: force all struct cftype const Kees Cook
2017-03-29 19:00 ` [RFC v2] Introduce rare_write() infrastructure Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-03-29 19:14   ` Kees Cook

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