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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: "kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com"
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>, "Sargun Dhillon" <sargun@sargun.me>,
	"Network Development" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux API" <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"LSM List" <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:CONTROL GROUP (CGROUP)" <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>,
	"Daniel Mack" <daniel@zonque.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 09/10] landlock: Handle cgroups
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 00:30:36 -0700
Message-ID: <CALCETrVK1yQw=8ckLn3dcB4LuKft0NOrvQFoyFRs98ON00WgBw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160826230539.GA26683@ast-mbp.thefacebook.com>

On Aug 27, 2016 1:05 AM, "Alexei Starovoitov"
<alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 05:10:40PM +0200, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
> >
>
> trimming cc list again. When it's too big vger will consider it as spam.
>
> > On 26/08/2016 04:14, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:32:44PM +0200, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
> > >> Add an eBPF function bpf_landlock_cmp_cgroup_beneath(opt, map, map_op)
> > >> to compare the current process cgroup with a cgroup handle, The handle
> > >> can match the current cgroup if it is the same or a child. This allows
> > >> to make conditional rules according to the current cgroup.
> > >>
> > >> A cgroup handle is a map entry created from a file descriptor referring
> > >> a cgroup directory (e.g. by opening /sys/fs/cgroup/X). In this case, the
> > >> map entry is of type BPF_MAP_HANDLE_TYPE_LANDLOCK_CGROUP_FD and the
> > >> inferred array map is of type BPF_MAP_ARRAY_TYPE_LANDLOCK_CGROUP.
> > >>
> > >> An unprivileged process can create and manipulate cgroups thanks to
> > >> cgroup delegation.
> > >>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Mickaël Salaün <mic@digikod.net>
> > > ...
> > >> +static inline u64 bpf_landlock_cmp_cgroup_beneath(u64 r1_option, u64 r2_map,
> > >> +          u64 r3_map_op, u64 r4, u64 r5)
> > >> +{
> > >> +  u8 option = (u8) r1_option;
> > >> +  struct bpf_map *map = (struct bpf_map *) (unsigned long) r2_map;
> > >> +  enum bpf_map_array_op map_op = r3_map_op;
> > >> +  struct bpf_array *array = container_of(map, struct bpf_array, map);
> > >> +  struct cgroup *cg1, *cg2;
> > >> +  struct map_landlock_handle *handle;
> > >> +  int i;
> > >> +
> > >> +  /* ARG_CONST_PTR_TO_LANDLOCK_HANDLE_CGROUP is an arraymap */
> > >> +  if (unlikely(!map)) {
> > >> +          WARN_ON(1);
> > >> +          return -EFAULT;
> > >> +  }
> > >> +  if (unlikely((option | _LANDLOCK_FLAG_OPT_MASK) != _LANDLOCK_FLAG_OPT_MASK))
> > >> +          return -EINVAL;
> > >> +
> > >> +  /* for now, only handle OP_OR */
> > >> +  switch (map_op) {
> > >> +  case BPF_MAP_ARRAY_OP_OR:
> > >> +          break;
> > >> +  case BPF_MAP_ARRAY_OP_UNSPEC:
> > >> +  case BPF_MAP_ARRAY_OP_AND:
> > >> +  case BPF_MAP_ARRAY_OP_XOR:
> > >> +  default:
> > >> +          return -EINVAL;
> > >> +  }
> > >> +
> > >> +  synchronize_rcu();
> > >> +
> > >> +  for (i = 0; i < array->n_entries; i++) {
> > >> +          handle = (struct map_landlock_handle *)
> > >> +                          (array->value + array->elem_size * i);
> > >> +
> > >> +          /* protected by the proto types, should not happen */
> > >> +          if (unlikely(handle->type != BPF_MAP_HANDLE_TYPE_LANDLOCK_CGROUP_FD)) {
> > >> +                  WARN_ON(1);
> > >> +                  return -EFAULT;
> > >> +          }
> > >> +          if (unlikely(!handle->css)) {
> > >> +                  WARN_ON(1);
> > >> +                  return -EFAULT;
> > >> +          }
> > >> +
> > >> +          if (option & LANDLOCK_FLAG_OPT_REVERSE) {
> > >> +                  cg1 = handle->css->cgroup;
> > >> +                  cg2 = task_css_set(current)->dfl_cgrp;
> > >> +          } else {
> > >> +                  cg1 = task_css_set(current)->dfl_cgrp;
> > >> +                  cg2 = handle->css->cgroup;
> > >> +          }
> > >> +
> > >> +          if (cgroup_is_descendant(cg1, cg2))
> > >> +                  return 0;
> > >> +  }
> > >> +  return 1;
> > >> +}
> > >
> > > - please take a loook at exisiting bpf_current_task_under_cgroup and
> > > reuse BPF_MAP_TYPE_CGROUP_ARRAY as a minimum. Doing new cgroup array
> > > is nothing but duplication of the code.
> >
> > Oh, I didn't know about this patchset and the new helper. Indeed, it
> > looks a lot like mine except there is no static verification of the map
> > type as I did with the arraymap of handles, and no batch mode either. I
> > think the return value of bpf_current_task_under_cgroup is error-prone
> > if an eBPF program do an "if(ret)" test on the value (because of the
> > negative ERRNO return value). Inverting the 0 and 1 return values should
> > fix this (0 == succeed, 1 == failed, <0 == error).
>
> nothing to fix. It's good as-is. Use if (ret > 0) instead.
>
> >
> > To sum up, there is four related patchsets:
> > * "Landlock LSM: Unprivileged sandboxing" (this series)
> > * "Add Checmate, BPF-driven minor LSM" (Sargun Dhillon)
> > * "Networking cgroup controller" (Anoop Naravaram)
> > * "Add eBPF hooks for cgroups" (Daniel Mack)
> >
> > The three other series (Sargun's, Anoop's and Daniel's) are mainly
> > focused on network access-control via cgroup for *containers*. As far as
> > I can tell, only a *root* user (CAP_SYS_ADMIN) can use them. Landlock's
> > goal is to empower all processes (privileged or not) to create their own
> > sandbox. This also means, like explained in "[RFC v2 00/10] Landlock
> > LSM: Unprivileged sandboxing", there is more constraints. For example,
> > it is not acceptable to let a process probe the kernel memory as it
> > wish. More details are in the Landlock cover-letter.
> >
> >
> > Another important point is that supporting cgroup for Landlock is
> > optional. It does not rely on cgroup to be usable but is only a feature
> > available when (unprivileged) users can manage there own cgroup, which
> > is an important constraint. Put another way, Landlock should not rely on
> > cgroup to create sandboxes. Indeed, a process creating a sandbox do not
> > necessarily have access to the cgroup mount point (directly or not).
>
> cgroup is the common way to group multiple tasks.
> Without cgroup only parent<->child relationship will be possible,
> which will limit usability of such lsm to a master task that controls
> its children. Such api restriction would have been ok, if we could
> extend it in the future, but unfortunately task-centric won't allow it
> without creating a parallel lsm that is cgroup based.
> Therefore I think we have to go with cgroup-centric api and your
> application has to use cgroups from the start though only parent-child
> would have been enough.
> Also I don't think the kernel can afford two bpf based lsm. One task
> based and another cgroup based, so we have to find common ground
> that suits both use cases.
> Having unprivliged access is a subset. There is no strong reason why
> cgroup+lsm+bpf should be limited to root only always.
> When we can guarantee no pointer leaks, we can allow unpriv.

I don't really understand what you mean.  In the context of landlock,
which is a *sandbox*, can one of you explain a use case that
materially benefits from this type of cgroup usage?  I haven't thought
of one.

  reply index

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-25 10:32 [RFC v2 00/10] Landlock LSM: Unprivileged sandboxing Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 01/10] landlock: Add Kconfig Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 02/10] bpf: Move u64_to_ptr() to BPF headers and inline it Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 03/10] bpf,landlock: Add a new arraymap type to deal with (Landlock) handles Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 04/10] seccomp: Split put_seccomp_filter() with put_seccomp() Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 05/10] seccomp: Handle Landlock Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 06/10] landlock: Add LSM hooks Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-30 18:56   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-30 20:10     ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-30 20:18       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-30 20:27         ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 07/10] landlock: Add errno check Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 11:13   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 08/10] landlock: Handle file system comparisons Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 11:12   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-25 14:10     ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-26 14:57       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-27 13:45         ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 09/10] landlock: Handle cgroups Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 11:09   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-25 14:44     ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-26 12:55       ` Tejun Heo
2016-08-26 14:20       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-26 15:50         ` Tejun Heo
2016-08-26  2:14   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-26 15:10     ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-26 23:05       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-27  7:30         ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2016-08-27 18:11           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-28  8:14             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-27 14:06         ` [RFC v2 09/10] landlock: Handle cgroups (performance) Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-27 18:06           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-27 19:35             ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-27 20:43               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-27 21:14                 ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-28  8:13                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-28  9:42                     ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-30 18:55                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-30 20:20                         ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-30 20:23                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-30 20:33                             ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-30 20:55                               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-30 21:45                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-31  1:36                                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-31  3:29                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-27 14:19         ` [RFC v2 09/10] landlock: Handle cgroups (netfilter match) Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-27 18:32           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-27 14:34         ` [RFC v2 09/10] landlock: Handle cgroups (program types) Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-27 18:19           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-27 19:55             ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-27 20:56               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-27 21:18                 ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 10:32 ` [RFC v2 10/10] samples/landlock: Add sandbox example Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-25 11:05 ` [RFC v2 00/10] Landlock LSM: Unprivileged sandboxing Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-25 13:57   ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-27  7:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-27 15:10   ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-27 15:21     ` [RFC v2 00/10] Landlock LSM: Unprivileged sandboxing (cgroup delegation) Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-30 16:06 ` [RFC v2 00/10] Landlock LSM: Unprivileged sandboxing Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-30 19:51   ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-08-30 19:55     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-09-15  9:19 ` Pavel Machek
2016-09-20 17:08   ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-09-24  7:45     ` Pavel Machek
2016-10-03 22:56     ` Kees Cook
2016-10-05 20:30       ` Mickaël Salaün

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