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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] x86, entry: Switch stacks on a paranoid entry from userspace
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 14:23:24 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrVx7hGZodWfAoU1oee1SW7XXSn3Lr8Vs9JTOUMNtLXY4A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3908561D78D1C84285E8C5FCA982C28F3292CB9A@ORSMSX114.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Luck, Tony <tony.luck@intel.com> wrote:
>> printk seems to work just fine in do_machine_check.  Any chance you
>> can instrument, for each cpu, all entries to do_machine_check, all
>> calls to do_machine_check, all returns, and everything that tries to
>> do memory_failure?
>
> I first added a printk() just for the cpu that calls do_machine_check()
>
>    printk("MCE: regs = %p\n", regs);
>
> to see if something went wonky when jumping to the kernel stack.
> But that printed the same value every time (same process is consuming
> and recovering from errors).  Maybe this took longer to hit the problem
> case - I ran to 1500ish errors instead of just 400 in the previous two tests.
> But not sure if that is a significant change.
>
> Then I added printk() for every entry/return on all cpus.  This just locked
> up on the third injection.  Serial console looked to have stopped printing
> after the first - so I put in bigger delays into my test program between injection
> and consumption, and before looping around for the next cycle to give
> time for all the messages (4-socket HSW-EX  ... there are a lot of cpus
> printing messages). But now it is taking a lot longer to get through
> injection/consumption iterations. At 226 now and counting.
>
>> Also, shouldn't there be a local_irq_enable before memory_failure and
>> a local_irq_disable after it?  It wouldn't surprise me if you've
>> deadlocked somewhere.  Lockdep could also have something interesting
>> to say.
> Added enable/disable.
>
>> should still be deliverable.  Is it possible that we really need an
>> IRET to unmask NMIs?  This seems unlikely.)
>
> If that were the problem, wouldn't we fail on iteration 2, instead of
> 400+ ?
>
> -Tony

There could be a timer interrupt or something.  But I agree, it seems
implausible.

Are you sure that this works in an unmodified kernel?  The timeout
code seems highly questionable to me.  For example, there's this:

        if ((c->x86 > 6 || (c->x86 == 6 && c->x86_model >= 0xe)) &&
            cfg->monarch_timeout < 0)
            cfg->monarch_timeout = USEC_PER_SEC;

which presumably determines monarch_timeout on your system and sets it
to 1000000.  But then there's this:

#define SPINUNIT 100    /* 100ns */

which smells like unit error to me.  On top of that, it seems likely
to me that the cpu could execute a loop iteration in much less than
100ns, since the only thing that should be anything other than an L1
hit or a correctly predicted branch is the rmb(), which is lfence,
which is probably just a few ns.  So you have 10k iterations at, say,
10ns each, allowing about 100µs to synchronize, and if an SMI hits at
an inopportune time, boom.

Also, rmb, seriously?  I would understand smp_rmb() or cpu_relax() or
even barrier(), but rmb() seems completely bogus if harmless.

--Andy

-- 
Andy Lutomirski
AMA Capital Management, LLC

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-13 22:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-11 20:56 [RFC PATCH] x86, entry: Switch stacks on a paranoid entry from userspace Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-11 21:36 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-11 22:00   ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-11 22:15     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-11 22:12   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-11 22:33     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-11 22:40       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-11 23:09         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-11 23:21           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-12  0:22             ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-12  0:40               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-12  1:06                 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-12  2:01                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-12  2:06                   ` Tony Luck
2014-11-12 10:30                     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-12 15:48                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-12 16:22                         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-12 17:17                           ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-12 17:30                             ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-13 18:04                           ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-14 21:56                             ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-14 22:07                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-17 18:50                               ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-17 19:57                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-17 20:03                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-17 20:05                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-17 21:55                                       ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-17 22:26                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-17 23:16                                           ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-18  0:05                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-18  0:22                                               ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-18  0:55                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-18 18:30                                                   ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-18 23:04                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-18 23:26                                                       ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-18 16:12                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-12 22:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-11-12 23:17   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-12 23:41     ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-13  0:02       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-13  0:31         ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-13  1:34           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-13  3:03           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-13 18:43             ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-13 22:23               ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2014-11-13 22:25                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-13 22:33                 ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-13 22:47                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-13 23:13                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-14  0:50                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-14  1:20                         ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-14  1:36                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-14 17:49                         ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-14 19:10                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-14 19:37                             ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-14 18:27                         ` Luck, Tony
2014-11-14 10:34             ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-14 17:18               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-14 17:24                 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-14 17:26                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-14 18:53                     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-13 10:59           ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-13 21:23             ` Borislav Petkov

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