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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Rethinking sigcontext's xfeatures slightly for PKRU's benefit?
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 14:52:40 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrW26qunk5CatBXXsTL4oBPoQ05q9Rch=tkbnKJU8GjJug@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5678310D.2010104@linux.intel.com>

On Dec 22, 2015 2:04 AM, "Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> On 12/18/2015 03:16 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > Hrm.  We might also want an option to change pkru and/or baseline_pkru
> > in all threads in the current mm.  That's optional but it could be
> > handy.  Maybe it would be as simple as having the allocate-a-pkey call
> > have an option to set an initial baseline value and an option to
> > propagate that initial value to pre-existing threads.
>
> Do you mean actively going in and changing PKRU in other threads?  I
> fear that will be dangerous.
>
> IMNHO, whatever we do, I think we need to ensure that _raw_ PKRU calls
> are allowed (somehow).  Raw in this case would mean a thread calling
> WRPKRU without a system call and without checking in with what any other
> threads are doing.
>
> Let's say baseline_pkru=0x004 (we're access-disabling PKEY[1] and using
> it for execute-only).  Now, a thread is trying to do this:
>
>         pkey2 = sys_pkey_alloc(); // now pkey2=2
>         tmp = rdpkru(); // 0x004
>         tmp |= 0x10; // set PKRU[2].AD=1
>         wrpkru(tmp);
>
> While another thread does:
>
>         pkey4 = pkey_alloc(); // pkey4=4
>         sys_pkey_set(pkey4, ACCESS_DISABLE, SET_BASELINE_ALL_THREADS);
>
> Without some kind of locking, that's going to race.  We could do all the
> locking in the kernel, but that requires that the kernel do all the PKRU
> writing, which I'd really like to avoid.
>
> I think the closest we can get reasonably is to have the kernel track
> the baseline_pkru and then allow userspace to query it in case userspace
> decides that thread needs to update its thread-local PKRU from the baseline.

Yeah, fair point.  Let's skip the modify-other-threads thing.

Perhaps this is silly, but what if the default were changed to deny
reads and writes for unallocated keys?  Is there a use case that
breaks?

--Andy

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-21 22:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-18  1:48 Rethinking sigcontext's xfeatures slightly for PKRU's benefit? Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-18  2:13 ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-18  2:32   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-18  2:52     ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-18  5:29       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-18  6:43         ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-12-18 16:04           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-18 16:56             ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-18 18:42             ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-18 19:21               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-18 20:07                 ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-18 20:28                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-18 20:37                   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-12-18 20:49                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-18 20:58                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-12-18 21:02                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-18 21:08                           ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-18 21:04                       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-12-18 21:09                         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-12-18 21:12                         ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-18 21:45                           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-12-18 22:28                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-18 23:08                               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-12-18 23:16                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-18 23:20                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-12-21 17:04                                   ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-21 22:52                                     ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2015-12-21 23:00                                       ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-21 23:02                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-21 23:05                                           ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-21 23:04                               ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-21 23:07                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-30 17:36                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-30 21:25                                     ` Dave Hansen
2016-07-01 16:30                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-12-29 23:48                             ` Dave Hansen
2015-12-18  8:32         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-12-18  8:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-12-18 12:57   ` Borislav Petkov
2016-01-12 13:38     ` Ingo Molnar
2016-01-12 13:42       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-01-13 10:48         ` Ingo Molnar

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