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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>, "X86 ML" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"Tony Luck" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	"Andi Kleen" <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"Josh Triplett" <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] x86, traps: Track entry into and exit from IST context
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 13:02:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrXBofV3oxDwK4MiSvFQcX3yxX_sL_KY63EZ8DgS8LnJSg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141124205441.GW5050@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Paul E. McKenney
<paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:22:13PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Paul E. McKenney
>> <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 09:53:29PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Paul E. McKenney
>> >> <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 06:00:14PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Paul E. McKenney
>> >> >> <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Returning state sounds like a bad idea, if we can reasonably avoid it.
>>
>> I agree, except that we already do it for exception_enter(), etc.  But
>> yes, changing fewer things is nice.
>>
>> >
>> > And I think I finally see what you are pointing out about my code: If
>> > another NMI comes in between the time I increment ->dynticks_nmi_nesting
>> > and the time I atomically increment ->dynticks, the nested NMI handler
>> > will incorrectly believe that RCU is already paying attention to this CPU.
>> > Which would indeed not be at all good, so good catch!!!
>> >
>> >> Otherwise, I think that there may need to be enough state somewhere so
>> >> that the outermost nested rcu_nmi_enter knows whether to increment
>> >> dynticks.  For example, dynticks_nmi_nesting could store the nesting
>> >> count * 2 - (1 if the outermost nested user needs to increment
>> >> dynticks).  Something like:
>> >>
>> >> void rcu_nmi_enter(void)
>> >> {
>> >>   /* Be very careful -- this function may be called reentrently on the
>> >> same CPU. */
>> >>   atomically: increment dynticks if it's even.
>> >>
>> >>   /* If an rcu_nmi_enter/rcu_nmi_exit pair happens here, then it will not change
>> >>    * the state. */
>> >>
>> >>   local_inc(&dynticks_nmi_nesting, (we incremented dynticks ? 1 : 2));
>> >>
>> >>   WARN_ON(we incremented dynticks and dynticks_nmi_nesting was nonzero);
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> void rcu_nmi_exit(void)
>> >> {
>> >>   WARN_ON(!(dynticks & 1));
>> >>   locally atomically: dynticks_nmi_nesting -= 2, unless
>> >> dynticks_nmi_nesting == 1, in which case set it to zero
>> >>
>> >>   if (dynticks_nmi_nesting was 1)
>> >>     atomic_inc(&dynticks);
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> The invariant here is that, for a single unnested enter/exit, if
>> >> dynticks_nmi_nesting != 0, then dynticks is odd.  As a result, an
>> >> rcu_nmi_enter/rcu_nmi_exit pair at any time when dynticks_nmi_nesting
>> >> != 0 *or* dynticks is odd will have no net effect, so the invariant,
>> >> in fact, holds for all invocations, nested or otherwise.
>> >>
>> >> At least one of those conditions is true at all times during the
>> >> execution of outermost pair, starting with the first atomic operation
>> >> and ending with the final atomic_inc.  So they nest properly no matter
>> >> what else happens (unless, of course, someone else pokes dynticks in
>> >> the middle).
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts?
>> >
>> > Let's see...  The evenness of ->dynticks should be preserved by nested NMI
>> > handlers, so the check and increment need not be atomic.  We don't have
>> > any way (other than atomic operations) to do local atomic modifications
>> > on all architectures, because we cannot mask NMIs.  (Yes, it can work
>> > on x86, but this is common code that needs to work everywhere.)  On the
>> > other hand, presumably NMIs are rare, so atomic modification of the NMI
>> > nesting counter should be OK, at least if it proves absolutely necessary.
>> > And I am thinking that a mechanical proof will be needed here.  :-/
>> >
>> > But first, let me try generating the code and informally evaluating it:
>> >
>> >          1   struct rcu_dynticks {
>> >          2     long long dynticks_nesting;
>> >          3     int dynticks_nmi_nesting;
>> >          4     atomic_t dynticks;
>> >          5   };
>> >          6
>> >          7   void rcu_nmi_enter(void)
>> >          8   {
>> >          9     struct rcu_dynticks *rdtp = this_cpu_ptr(&rcu_dynticks);
>> >         10     int incby = 2;
>> >         11
>> >         12     if (!(atomic_read(&rdtp->dynticks) & 0x1)) {
>> >         13       smp_mb__before_atomic();
>> >         14       atomic_inc(&rdtp->dynticks);
>> >         15       smp_mb__after_atomic();
>> >         16       WARN_ON_ONCE(!(atomic_read(&rdtp->dynticks) & 0x1));
>> >         17       incby = 1;
>>
>> WARN_ON_ONCE(rdtp->dynticks_nmi_nesting < 1) here, perhaps?
>
> That would make sense.
>
>> >         18     }
>> >         19     rdtp->dynticks_nmi_nesting += incby;
>>
>> Oh, I see why you don't need local_add -- it's because an nmi in the
>> middle of this increment won't have any effect on the interrupted
>> code, so even a software RMW will be okay.
>
> Yep!  ;-)
>
>> >         20     barrier();
>> >         21   }
>> >         22
>> >         23   void rcu_nmi_exit(void)
>> >         24   {
>> >         25     struct rcu_dynticks *rdtp = this_cpu_ptr(&rcu_dynticks);
>> >         26
>> >         27     WARN_ON_ONCE(!rdtp->dynticks_nmi_nesting);
>> >         28     WARN_ON_ONCE(!(atomic_read(&rdtp->dynticks) & 0x1));
>> >         29     if (rdtp->dynticks_nmi_nesting != 1) {
>>
>> WARN_ON_ONCE(rdtp->dynticks_nmi_nesting < 2), perhaps?
>
> This is already implied by the WARN_ON_ONCE() on line 27 and the check
> on line 29.

I was worried about negative numbers.  Maybe change line 27 to
WARN_ON_ONCE(rdtp->dynticks_nmi_nesting <= 0), then?  (Or is it
unsigned?  If so, let's make to signed to catch this type of error.)

>
>> >         30       rdtp->dynticks_nmi_nesting -= 2;
>> >         31       return;
>> >         32     }
>> >         33     rdtp->dynticks_nmi_nesting = 0;
>> >         34     smp_mb__before_atomic();
>>
>> This implies barrier(), right?
>
> Yep!
>
>> >         35     atomic_inc(&rdtp->dynticks);
>> >         36     smp_mb__after_atomic();
>> >         37     WARN_ON_ONCE(atomic_read(&rdtp->dynticks) & 0x1);
>> >         38   }
>> >
>> > Line 9 picks up a pointer to this CPU's rcu_dynticks structure and line 10
>> > assumes that we don't need to increment ->dynticks.
>> >
>> > Line 12 checks to see if ->dynticks is even.  Note that this check is
>> > stable: If there are nested NMIs, they will increment ->dynticks twice
>> > or not at all, and either way preserves the evenness (to be proven, of
>> > course, but that is the plan).  If ->dynticks is even, lines 13-15
>> > atomically increment it, line 16 complains if still even, and line 17
>> > says we will increment ->dynticks_nmi_nesting by only 1.
>> >
>> > Either way, line 19 increments ->dynticks_nmi_nesting as needed and
>> > line 20 keeps the compiler from getting too cute.
>> >
>> > For rcu_nmi_exit(), line 25 again picks up this CPUs rcu_dynticks
>> > structure.  Lines 27 and 28 complain bitterly if invariants are violated.
>> > If line 29 finds that the value of ->dynticks_nmi_nesting is not 1,
>> > then line 30 subtracts 2 from ->dynticks_nmi_nesting and line 31 returns.
>> >
>> > Otherwise, line 33 sets ->dynticks_nmi_nesting to zero, lines 34-36
>> > atomically increment ->dynticks with full ordering, and line 37
>> > complains bitterly if ->dynticks is not even.
>> >
>> > So, if an NMI occurs before rcu_nmi_enter's atomic increment, then the
>> > nested NMI's rcu_nmi_enter() and rcu_nmi_exit() will think that they are
>> > not nested, which is the correct thing for them to think in that case.
>> > They will increment ->dynticks twice and restore ->dynticks_nmi_nesting
>> > to zero (adding and then subtracting 1).  If the NMI happens after the
>> > atomic increment, then the nested rcu_nmi_enter() and rcu_nmi_exit()
>> > will leave ->dynticks alone, and will restore ->dynticks_nmi_nesting
>> > to zero (adding and subtracting two again).  If the NMI happens after
>> > the increment of ->dynticks_nmi_nesting, the nested NMI's rcu_nmi_enter()
>> > and rcu_nmi_exit() will again restore ->dynticks_nmi_nesting, but this
>> > time to one (again adding and subtracting two).
>> >
>> > In rcu_nmi_exit(), ->dynticks_nmi_nesting of zero had better not happen,
>> > one means we need to atomically increment ->dynticks, and other values
>> > mean that we are partially or fully nested.  Reasoning proceeds as for
>> > rcu_nmi_enter(), but in the opposite direction.
>> >
>> > Whew!  That might even work.
>>
>> I think I like this, with the warnings above.
>
> OK with dropping the one that I called out as redundant?

Sure, but see about.

>
>> > But how about taking a different approach.  Assuming that there can
>> > never be more than (say) 14 nesting NMI-like things, use the lower
>> > four bits of ->dynticks to represent the NMI nesting and the upper
>> > 28 bits as the counter.  This of course requires modifying lots of
>> > places in RCU that check the counter, but it is probably time to
>> > abstract the check anyway.
>> >
>> > This would allow my earlier attempted logic to work and (maybe) simplify
>> > the reasoning a bit (and yes, the "magic" constants need macros):
>> >
>> >         void rcu_nmi_enter(void)
>> >         {
>> >                 struct rcu_dynticks *rdtp = this_cpu_ptr(&rcu_dynticks);
>> >                 int nesting = atomic_read(&rdtp->dynticks) & 0xf;
>> >                 int incby = 0x01;
>> >
>> >                 WARN_ON_ONCE(nexting == 0xf);
>> >                 if (nesting == 0) {
>> >                         if (atomic_read(&rdtp->dynticks) & 0x10)
>> >                                 return;
>> >                         incby = 0x11;
>> >                 }
>> >                 smp_mb__before_atomic();
>> >                 atomic_add(&rdtp->dynticks, incby);
>> >                 smp_mb__after_atomic();
>> >                 WARN_ON_ONCE(!(atomic_read(&rdtp->dynticks) & 0x1));
>> >         }
>> >
>> >         void rcu_nmi_exit(void)
>> >         {
>> >                 struct rcu_dynticks *rdtp = this_cpu_ptr(&rcu_dynticks);
>> >                 int nesting = atomic_read(&rdtp->dynticks) & 0xf;
>> >                 int incby = 0x0f;
>> >
>> >                 if (nesting == 0)
>> >                         return;
>> >                 if (nesting > 1)
>> >                         incby = -1;
>> >                 smp_mb__before_atomic();
>> >                 atomic_add(&rdtp->dynticks, incby);
>> >                 smp_mb__after_atomic();
>> >                 WARN_ON_ONCE(atomic_read(&rdtp->dynticks) & 0x1);
>> >         }
>> >
>> > Over to you!  ;-)
>>
>> This latter one is all you :)
>
> Well, let's see how I feel about it after trying a Promela model of
> the first code sequence.  ;-)

:)

Does Promela understand the differences between this type of
reentrancy and real threading?

--Andy

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-24 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-21 21:26 [PATCH v4 0/5] x86: Rework IST interrupts Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-21 21:26 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] uprobes, x86: Fix _TIF_UPROBE vs _TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-22 16:55   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-24 17:58     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-21 21:26 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] x86, traps: Track entry into and exit from IST context Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-21 21:32   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-21 22:07     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-21 22:19       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-21 22:55         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-21 23:06           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-21 23:38             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-22  2:00               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-22  4:20                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-22  5:53                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-22 23:41                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-24 20:22                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-24 20:54                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-24 21:02                           ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2014-11-24 21:35                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-24 22:34                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-24 22:36                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-24 22:57                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-24 23:31                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-24 23:35                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-24 23:50                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-24 23:52                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-25 18:58                                             ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-25 19:16                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-12-11  0:22                                               ` Tony Luck
2014-12-11  0:24                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-05 21:46                                                   ` Tony Luck
2015-01-05 21:54                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-06  0:44                                                       ` [PATCH] x86, mce: Get rid of TIF_MCE_NOTIFY and associated mce tricks Luck, Tony
2015-01-06  1:01                                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-06 18:00                                                           ` Luck, Tony
2015-01-07 12:13                                                             ` Borislav Petkov
2015-01-07 15:51                                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-07 15:58                                                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-01-07 16:12                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-25 17:13                                           ` [PATCH v4 2/5] x86, traps: Track entry into and exit from IST context Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-27  7:03                                           ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-11-27 16:46                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-24 21:27                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-21 22:20       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-11-21 22:00   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-11-22 17:20   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-24 19:48     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-22 21:52   ` Sasha Levin
2015-01-23 17:58     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-23 18:04       ` Borislav Petkov
2015-01-23 18:34         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-23 20:48           ` Sasha Levin
2015-01-24  1:25             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-28 16:33               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-28 17:48                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-01-28 21:02                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-30 19:57                     ` Sasha Levin
2015-01-31  1:28                       ` Sasha Levin
2015-01-31  3:12                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-31 12:50                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-31 13:01                         ` [PATCH] x86, traps: Fix ist_enter from userspace Andy Lutomirski
2015-01-31 15:09                           ` Sasha Levin
2015-01-31 16:18                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-01  2:17                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-02-04  6:01                           ` [tip:x86/asm] " tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-21 21:26 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] x86, entry: Switch stacks on a paranoid entry " Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-24 15:55   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-21 21:26 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] x86: Clean up current_stack_pointer Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-24 11:39   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-21 21:26 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] x86, traps: Add ist_begin_non_atomic and ist_end_non_atomic Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-24 15:54   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-11-24 19:52     ` Andy Lutomirski

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