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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/uaccess: Use pointer masking to limit uaccess speculation
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 17:18:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrXeTqkGry=Rbccn9EP1=YAqkYBt7wywrFohUyG-6A_udA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200819170223.nmv7dekvpc5yk4rm@treble>

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 10:02 AM Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 09:39:10AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 7:50 AM Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > +/*
> > > + * Sanitize a uaccess pointer such that it becomes NULL if it's not a valid
> > > + * user pointer.  This blocks speculative dereferences of user-controlled
> > > + * pointers.
> > > + */
> > > +#define uaccess_mask_ptr(ptr) \
> > > +       (__typeof__(ptr)) array_index_nospec((__force unsigned long)ptr, user_addr_max())
> > > +
> >
> > If I dug through all the macros correctly, this is generating a fairly
> > complex pile of math to account for the fact that user_addr_max() is
> > variable and that it's a nasty number.
>
> The math is actually pretty simple.  It's identical to what getuser.S is
> doing:
>
>         cmp TASK_addr_limit(%_ASM_DX),%_ASM_AX
>         sbb %_ASM_DX, %_ASM_DX
>         and %_ASM_DX, %_ASM_AX
>
> > But I don't think there's any particular need to use the real maximum
> > user address here.  Allowing a mis-speculated user access to a
> > non-canonical address or to the top guard page of the lower canonical
> > region is harmless.  With current kernels, a sequence like:
> >
> > if (likely((long)addr > 0) {
> >   masked_addr = addr & 0x7FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUL;
> > } else {
> >   if (kernel fs) {
> >     masked_addr = addr;
> >   } else {
> >     EFAULT;
> >   }
> > }
>
> The masking has to be done without conditional branches, otherwise it
> defeats the point.

Ugh.  Fair enough.

> Yeah, we could do that.  Though in the meantime, the simple merge
> conflict resolution with Christoph's patches would be
> s/user_addr_max/TASK_SIZE_MAX/ in my uaccess_mask_ptr() macro.

Okay.  I will try to help remember :)

--Andy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-08-20  0:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-19 14:50 [PATCH] x86/uaccess: Use pointer masking to limit uaccess speculation Josh Poimboeuf
2020-08-19 16:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-19 17:02   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-08-19 21:30     ` David Laight
2020-08-20  0:18     ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2020-08-28 19:29 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-08-29 13:21   ` David Laight
2020-08-29 19:31     ` David Laight
2020-08-31 17:31       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-09-01  8:32         ` David Laight
2020-09-01 14:26           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-09-01 15:00             ` David Laight
2020-09-01 15:24               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-09-01 14:02 ` Mark Rutland
2020-09-01 14:21   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-09-01 14:52     ` Mark Rutland
2020-09-01 14:46   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-01 14:54     ` Mark Rutland
2020-09-01 15:05       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-01 15:46         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-02 11:43           ` Mark Rutland
2020-09-02 13:32             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-02 17:23               ` Mark Rutland
2020-09-03  6:56                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-04 16:00                   ` Mark Rutland

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