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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Yang Shi <yang.s@alibaba-inc.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] fs: fsnotify: account fsnotify metadata to kmemcg
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 18:15:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALvZod4r4hC2A47WP1AwwDCkcPSeoV1GBJL2Dr8SC0H9fm8BHA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180125015441.GS13338@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 5:54 PM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 05:08:27PM -0800, Shakeel Butt wrote:
>> First, let me apologize, I think I might have led the discussion in
>> wrong direction by giving one wrong information. The current upstream
>> kernel, from the syscall context, does not invoke oom-killer when a
>> memcg hits its limit and fails to reclaim memory, instead ENOMEM is
>> returned. The memcg oom-killer is only invoked on page faults. However
>> in a separate effort I do plan to converge the behavior, long
>> discussion at <https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9988063/>.
>
> Correct me if I'm misinterpreting you, but your rationale in there
> appears to be along the lines of "userland applications might not
> be ready to handle -ENOMEM gracefully, so let's hit them with
> kill -9 instead - that will be handled properly, 'cuz M4G1C!!1!!!!"
>

Nah, the motivation is something like: In the memory overcommitted
system (or memcg) where jobs of different priorities are running, it
is preferable to kill a low priority job than to return an ENOMEM to
high priority job.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-25  2:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-27 18:22 [PATCH v2] fs: fsnotify: account fsnotify metadata to kmemcg Yang Shi
2017-10-28 14:19 ` Amir Goldstein
2017-10-29  2:39   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-10-30 12:43 ` Jan Kara
2017-10-30 16:39   ` Yang Shi
2017-10-31 10:12     ` Jan Kara
2017-10-31 16:44       ` Yang Shi
2017-11-01 15:15         ` Jan Kara
2017-11-09 13:54       ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-13 19:10         ` Yang Shi
2017-11-14  9:39           ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-14 17:32             ` Yang Shi
2017-11-15  9:31               ` Jan Kara
2018-01-19 15:02                 ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-22 20:31                   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-01-24 10:34                     ` Jan Kara
2018-01-24 11:12                       ` Amir Goldstein
2018-01-25  1:08                         ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-25  1:54                           ` Al Viro
2018-01-25  2:15                             ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2018-01-25  7:51                           ` Amir Goldstein
2018-01-25 20:20                             ` Shakeel Butt
2018-01-25 20:36                               ` Amir Goldstein
2018-02-13  6:30                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2018-02-13 21:10                                   ` Shakeel Butt
2018-02-13 21:54                                     ` Amir Goldstein
2018-02-13 22:20                                       ` Shakeel Butt
2018-02-14  1:59                                         ` Shakeel Butt
2018-02-14  8:38                                           ` Amir Goldstein
2018-02-19 13:50                                             ` Jan Kara
2018-02-19 19:07                                               ` Amir Goldstein
2018-02-20 12:43                                                 ` Jan Kara
2018-02-20 19:20                                                   ` Shakeel Butt
2018-02-20 20:30                                                   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-02-14  9:00                                         ` Amir Goldstein

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