From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932453Ab3BZQqC (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:46:02 -0500 Received: from mail-lb0-f178.google.com ([209.85.217.178]:37824 "EHLO mail-lb0-f178.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758829Ab3BZQqA (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:46:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20130226102111.GA4229@srcf.ucam.org> References: <20130226033803.GA30285@srcf.ucam.org> <20130226035416.GA1128@kroah.com> <20130226040456.GA30717@srcf.ucam.org> <20130226041324.GA7241@kroah.com> <20130226044521.GC12906@thunk.org> <20130226060428.GD12906@thunk.org> <20130226063813.GA17317@thunk.org> <20130226102111.GA4229@srcf.ucam.org> From: Kent Yoder Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:45:27 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Load keys from signed PE binaries To: Matthew Garrett Cc: Raymond Jennings , "Theodore Ts'o" , Dave Airlie , Greg KH , David Howells , Florian Weimer , Linus Torvalds , Josh Boyer , Peter Jones , Vivek Goyal , Kees Cook , keyrings@linux-nfs.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:21 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 02:07:22AM -0800, Raymond Jennings wrote: >> Just curious here, but is this as much of an issue if a user is >> somehow able to take ownership of his own machine? > > No, if you're doing your own key management then it's no problem at > all. > >> I'm assuming this is related to TPM somehow. > > No, completely unrelated. Almost completely. As Matthew I'm sure knows, TPM is also used to establish a chain of trust, but not using signed firmware/kernel/modules, but chained hashes that are later signed using the TPM. It does avoid the issue of embedding keys from a centralized authority in your box's firmware. Kent > -- > Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/