From: Hitoshi Mitake <h.mitake@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
Roland Dreier <roland@purestorage.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@parallels.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hpa@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NVMe: Fix compilation on architecturs without readq/writeq
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 00:24:48 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMO-S2gjOL_kv1Lka_tJw5yB-LrPG-4hiJ0EKpaFzVAgRGs59A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyxbieV2-WpFNrEtwQ6gXbW7y_X9oW5N6FcEcxmQKA38g@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:03, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Hitoshi Mitake <h.mitake@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I don't know about the minor architectures, but some of them,
>> like alpha, seems to do reordering of memory access agressively.
>>
>> Is the reordering is applied to io rw?
>> Should memory barriers be placed between two readl/writel?
>
> No need to place barriers - the "readl/writel()" functions are ordered
> in themselves. There are non-ordered versions in theory
> ("writel_relaxed()") for things like frame buffers etc that actively
> want the ordering, but that's a separate issue entirely.
>
> You do want to make sure that they aren't in the same C expression, so
> that the compiler doesn't re-order the expression. IOW, if you just do
>
> return (readl(addr+4) << 32) | readl(addr);
>
> then that doesn't have any ordering at all simply because there is
> none at the C level. But
>
> u64 val;
> val = readl(addr);
> val |= readl(addr+4) << 32;
>
> is well-defined and must read the low word first - both at the C level
> *and* at the CPU level. Anything else would be a bug in the
> architecture "readl()" implementation or the hardware.
>
> (On x86, for example, a "readl()" is just a memory access, but while
> x86 can re-order reads to regular memory in hardware, that is *not*
> true of IO memory accesses. On architectures like POWER, 'readl()'
> implies synchronization instructions)
>
> Linus
Thanks for your description.
Now I can understand the semantics of readl/writel of the kernel.
--
Hitoshi Mitake
h.mitake@gmail.com
prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-04 15:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-20 1:01 [PATCH] NVMe: Fix compilation on architecturs without readq/writeq Matthew Wilcox
2012-01-20 1:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-20 17:43 ` Wilcox, Matthew R
2012-01-21 8:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-21 15:54 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-01-21 16:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-23 16:05 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-01-23 16:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-23 23:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-29 8:02 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-01-31 3:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-31 3:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-02-04 15:25 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-01-31 11:58 ` Alan Cox
2012-01-31 12:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-31 12:18 ` Alan Cox
2012-01-31 12:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-01 23:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-02-02 1:05 ` James Bottomley
2012-02-02 1:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-02-02 15:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-04 15:39 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-02-05 6:53 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-02-05 7:01 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-02-04 15:34 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-02-07 2:48 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-02-04 15:24 ` Hitoshi Mitake [this message]
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