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From: Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>, Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>,
	Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	richard.weiyang@gmail.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [PATCH] mm: memcontrol: optimize per-lruvec stats counter memory usage
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 23:19:09 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMZfGtV36d0L7-+pSoD0Xqws-9naRNowTNJ3VTLwT5tFt09RJQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201207150847.GM25569@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 11:09 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon 07-12-20 20:56:58, Muchun Song wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:36 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun 06-12-20 16:56:39, Muchun Song wrote:
> > > > The vmstat threshold is 32 (MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH), so the type of s32
> > > > of lruvec_stat_cpu is enough. And introduce struct per_cpu_lruvec_stat
> > > > to optimize memory usage.
> > >
> > > How much savings are we talking about here? I am not deeply familiar
> > > with the pcp allocator but can it compact smaller data types much
> > > better?
> >
> > It is a percpu struct. The size of struct lruvec_stat is 304(tested on the
> > linux-5.5). So we can save 304 / 2 * nproc bytes per memcg where nproc
> > is the number of the possible CPU. If we have n memory cgroup in the
> > system. Finally, we can save (152 * nproc * n) bytes. In some configurations,
> > nproc here may be 512. And if we have a lot of dying cgroup. The n can be
> > 100, 000 (I once saw it on my server).
>
> This should be part of the changelog. In general, any optimization
> should come with some numbers showing the effect of the optimization.
>
> As I've said I am not really familiar with pcp internals and how
> efficiently it can organize smaller objects. Maybe it can really half
> the memory consumption.
>
> My only concern is that using smaller types for these counters can fire
> back later on because we have an inderect dependency between the batch
> size and the data type.  In general I do not really object to the patch
> as long as savings are non trivial so that we are not creating a
> potential trap for something that is practically miniscule
> microptimization.

There is a similar structure named struct per_cpu_nodestat.

struct per_cpu_nodestat {
        s8 stat_threshold;
        s8 vm_node_stat_diff[NR_VM_NODE_STAT_ITEMS];
};

The s8 is enough for per-node vmstat counters. This also depends on
the batch size. It can be s8 for a long time. Why not s32 is not suitable
for the per-memcg vmstat counters? They are very similar, right?

Thanks.

> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs



-- 
Yours,
Muchun

      reply	other threads:[~2020-12-07 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-06  8:56 [PATCH] mm: memcontrol: optimize per-lruvec stats counter memory usage Muchun Song
2020-12-07 12:36 ` Michal Hocko
2020-12-07 12:56   ` [External] " Muchun Song
2020-12-07 15:09     ` Michal Hocko
2020-12-07 15:19       ` Muchun Song [this message]

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