From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756229Ab2IFO37 (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Sep 2012 10:29:59 -0400 Received: from mail-pb0-f46.google.com ([209.85.160.46]:38092 "EHLO mail-pb0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756166Ab2IFO36 (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Sep 2012 10:29:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1346773188.27919.13.camel@gandalf.local.home> References: <1346091725.19381.10.camel@pippen.local.home> <1346773188.27919.13.camel@gandalf.local.home> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 22:29:58 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add feature-removal-schedule.txt removal to feature-removal-schedule.txt From: Cong Wang To: Steven Rostedt Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 09:28 +0800, Cong Wang wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Steven Rostedt wrote: >> > The file feature-removal-schedule.txt is ignored by most people except >> > for people that add to it. It's more of a global TODO list for >> > developers than being anything useful by anyone. >> > >> > Add a feature removal of removing the feature-removal-schedule.txt. >> > >> >> Hi, Steven, >> >> I sometimes remind people to remove features scheduled in this file, >> by sending a proposed patch. ;) > > At Kernel Summit, Linus went on a rant about this file. He said he hates > it and is totally useless. Basically, it is only used by us developers, > and is not used by normal users. As it is a dumping ground for all > developers, this file becomes the biggest conflict during merges that > Linus does. > > There are better ways to tell users something is about to go away. My > preference is a nasty WARN_ON_ONCE() in the code when the feature is > used. People tend to report call traces, and you can either tell the > person, "don't use this" or you know that it is something that is > actually used and you can't remove it. > I don't think feature-removal-schedule.txt is for kernel users, it is a kind of a TODO list for kernel developers.